Boooo for Tamada...

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by bram, Oct 5, 2003.

  1. bram

    bram Guest

    bram, Oct 5, 2003
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    paulh Guest

    paulh, Oct 5, 2003
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    Biggus Guest

    wow thought he was a has been yrs ago?

    Didnt even know he was still racing, thought he quit when Gobert
    happened.
     
    Biggus, Oct 6, 2003
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    Aido Guest

    What did Tamada do to get disqualified?
     
    Aido, Oct 6, 2003
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    paulh Guest

    He overtook Gibernau under brakes but accidently moved across and hit
    him at the same time... Sete then ran off the track at the end of the
    straight.

    paulh
     
    paulh, Oct 6, 2003
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    paulh Guest

    Strange... that news item IS over a year old.... but it was
    under the Tamada story..

    ah.. I see... its an archive story...
    strange

    paulh
     
    paulh, Oct 6, 2003
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    Biggus Guest

    **** all really...
     
    Biggus, Oct 7, 2003
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    Aido Guest

    I saw him do that, but didn't think it was intentional, But as ussual in
    racing, The powers at be have know idea what they're doing.
     
    Aido, Oct 8, 2003
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    Nev.. Guest

    I don't think he was punished for doing it intentionally. I think he was
    punished because he is a GP racer and he should know better than to run into
    another bike right at the braking point at the end of a fast straight, and
    especially when the bike he hit runs off the track as a result, and especially
    when the rider who runs off the track is running second in the championship,
    and especially when as a result of running off the track he loses track
    position, misses out on an almost certain podium finish and valuable
    championship points.

    Nev..
    '02 CBR1100XX #2 lives on !! no ZX12R yet...
     
    Nev.., Oct 8, 2003
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    paulh Guest

    I guess we agree then...
    I think its more a case of acting responsibly. Tamada would never have
    deliberately hit Sete... I think he accidently went in a bit hot and
    made a mistake....one that could have had disastrous consequences
    And it was this he was punished for. That is, for being reckless...as
    such it was not considered just a 'racing incident' but more serious.
    I agree that it was... but that the penalty was too harsh.

    paulh
     
    paulh, Oct 8, 2003
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    Biggus Guest

    So why is he disqualified and others over the year havent been?
     
    Biggus, Oct 9, 2003
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    Biggus Guest


    then what about these examples.

    To keep things simple, we might mention a few episodes that have taken
    place this season: Perugini overtaking Pedrosa at Donington in the 125
    race, Elias overtaking Poggiali in the 250 at Rio (the lap before the
    Spaniard fell), Sete Gibernau overtaking Valentino Rossi on the last
    lap of the Le Mans Grand Prix. In none of these manoeuvres, as in
    scores of other cases, did any of those involved ask "permission"
    before moving in front of the other. Sometimes the riders made
    contact, other times there was a fall. In some of these cases,
    everything turned out fine, but only because one of the two decided to
    back down.
    This time, at Motegi, Tamada and Gibernau both left deceleration right
    to the end, and the Japanese got the best of it simply because he had
    cleverly managed to put himself in the best position. On the inside.
     
    Biggus, Oct 9, 2003
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    Biggus Guest

    Then why haevnt other riders over the year been DQ for the same thing?
     
    Biggus, Oct 9, 2003
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Didn't you read the bit about "the penalty was too harsh"?
     
    Knobdoodle, Oct 9, 2003
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    Biggus Guest

    yes but why when he appealed was he still assholed?


    Others have done it this year, and have been let off totally
     
    Biggus, Oct 9, 2003
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    paulh Guest

    So fucking what. The decision was made about THIS incident in THIS
    race. Spouting 'oh 3 years back in the German 250cc GP series Hermann
    Lederhosen got away with T-boning Klaus Bratwurst at the
    FutzenShutzenMuntzenring" means absolutely nothing. I think it looked
    like Tamada moved into Setes bike and caused him to run off when he
    slightly overcooked it coming into the corner, I do think he should
    have been more careful and I'm happy with the Officials giving him
    some sort of punishment. Please address THIS issue and not some
    completely different one done somewhere completely different by
    different riders. Its not relevant.

    Feel free to email me mpgs of the relavant incidents you quote above
    and I'll give you my opinion of them as well.

    paulh
     
    paulh, Oct 9, 2003
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    paulh Guest

    Because they werent.

    paulh

     
    paulh, Oct 9, 2003
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    paulh Guest

    In the 1921 Walmington-On-Sea MotoVelocipede Races Mr J.S.Arthurs was
    fined Thrupence-ha'penny for failing to wear an F.I.M. certified pair
    of racing jodhpurs... WHY wasn't Rossi fined for the same thing at the
    last MotoGP???
    Why I ask you??

    paulh
     
    paulh, Oct 9, 2003
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    conehead Guest

    Heheheheh. Down, boy!
     
    conehead, Oct 10, 2003
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  20. paulh said....

    pa> fined Thrupence-ha'penny for failing to wear an F.I.M. certified pair

    You KiwiPete in disguise or something? It's "thrippence", not
    "thruppence"...
     
    Martin Taylor, Oct 10, 2003
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