Bradley Smith... real deal?

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by pablo, Oct 23, 2009.

  1. pablo

    pablo Guest

    He confuses me. He is fast yet inconsistent yet smart and controlled
    at times.

    So do we think he is an evolving supertalent, as many In Spain think?
    Shouldn't he be there in 125 there right now then? Will he do better
    on bigger bikes?
     
    pablo, Oct 23, 2009
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    Switters Guest

    Well, I think for us Brits, we dare not hope. Each time we think we've
    got the next big thing since Barry Sheene, we're let down. Although this
    time, it's encouraging that the Spanish rate him too.

    For me though, it seems that he needs to improve his fighting spirit. He
    doesn't get stuck in at the start which can leave him with too much to
    make up when he decides to get going.

    When Pedrosa was in 125/250 he was usually fast but rarely fought for his
    wins. Now he's going to end up 4th. Going down!
     
    Switters, Oct 23, 2009
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  3. pablo

    pablo Guest

    I admit that as a young teen, I was a passionate first hand witness to
    the Sheene vs Roberts battles, never losing hope and conviction Sheene
    was the cooler guy despite Roberts' ability to beat him (superior
    Yamaha machinist and Carruthers, unfair and all :-D)... and ever since
    the nature of British riders and their results have puzzled me. Is
    there a Sheene jinx? I mean, there have been immensely talented guys
    performing amazing feats that subsequently seem to loose their edge
    and passion when they cross over. What happened to Haslam... oh and
    others...
    It is his consistency that worries me - and it may be related to what
    you say. If he is not one of the fastest in practice he seems to
    indeed settle, or go bonkers and crash out repeatedly. That is why his
    performances confuse me. His raw talent is clear. His ability to
    approach races with the required ultra-cool methodology isn't yet
    (Sheene learned it later in his career and then came the Silverstone
    crash into Middleburgh(?)).
    Pedrosa should not be the benchmark. I think he is like Criville,
    starting as a talent and having fun but ultimately hating where he is
    at and the pressure of it all. He is not having fun. It is just what
    he does quite competently, but without the ultimate passion for it.
     
    pablo, Oct 24, 2009
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    Julian Bond Guest

    He's not the only one (in all classes) to be inconsistent. And I think
    the apparent inconsistency is made more obvious by Julian Simon's
    dominance.

    But then I think something has happened this year. The level of quality
    at the top of almost every championship has now reached a pitch where
    there's a whole group of riders just off the top who in previous years
    would have been solid winners. Look back on history and we expected
    championships to be won by people who had 3 wins, 3 podiums, a 7th or so
    and 3 DNFs. Now we expect our winners to get 10 wins, 5 podium and 1
    DNF. Anything less than that and we call them inconsistent.

    There was an interview with Corser where he said "we're not doing so
    badly. Our race times would have won last year" And yet BMW and Corser
    look like they're struggling and irrelevant because he's only really
    managed to get 7th through 15th places.

    I think Bradley has the raw ability. And even though he's got Randy
    Mamola in his camp, I think he needs a manager who can bring out the
    best in him and teach him how to race. I really don't know how far he
    can go.
     
    Julian Bond, Oct 24, 2009
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  5. pablo

    pablo Guest

    A very sensible view.

    That said, I hope that MotoGP also recruits riders that simply look
    spectacular in the supporting categories (let us not forget Stoner did
    lose the 250 to Pedrosa, and see how sweetly that tables have turned
    in MotoGP). I look forward to more of Smith, he can definitely do
    amazing things on a bike when he is *on*.
     
    pablo, Oct 26, 2009
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    Switters Guest

    I'm a bit younger and didn't grow up on a diet of Sheene et al, but it
    seems that every emerging talent is dumped on as being the next Sheene.
    Quite frankly I'm sick of hearing the label.

    [Smith]
    Sunday for me again showed his lack of fight. Why didn't he try up the
    inside of Simon on the last corner? Maybe he was too far back, the
    camera angle didn't help, but from the shadows it looked like he could
    have tried. Maybe they'd have both run wide, but with the lead they had
    it wouldn't have mattered.
    He needs to fire Puig.

    Did you read the interview in El País with Pedrosa and Rossi? Certainly
    showed him in a different light and his mindset was something that he
    touched upon in the interview.
    Like Fogarty? He always said he never really liked racing, just enjoyed
    winning.

    I'd like to see what Scott Redding could do on a top factory bike. He
    is supposed to be the real deal according to those that know such
    things. I'd say the same about Marquez and Folger as well.
     
    Switters, Oct 28, 2009
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