braided lines... any traps for young players?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by GB, Apr 13, 2005.

  1. GB

    GB Guest

    Brakes on the front of my Thunderarse (pre R1 yzf) are a bit
    spongy. Plenty of meat on the pads (shouldn't be relevant
    anyway?). If they're still dodgy after I've changed the fluid
    and bled them, then plan 'B' is braided lines on the front.

    Any traps for young players? Any brands or types of braided line
    better than others?

    In particular, I saw a kit somewhere that replaced the standard

    Master Cylinder ----> T-Piece ---> Lines to each caliper

    arrangement with a setup that has two banjo fittings piggybacked
    on top of each other straight off the master cylinder to give..

    Master Cylinder ---> Lines to each caliper


    Any particular reason why this might be a good or bad idea? I
    can't think of any (Unless the head of the banjo bolt hits the
    tacho or something!)


    Finally, the most important part... The Thunderarse is black
    and silver, what colour brake lines will give best stopping
    performance?

    TIA,

    GB, I don't think they're available in an argyle pattern
    (but then that's not as silly as it first sounds ya know!)
     
    GB, Apr 13, 2005
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  2. GB

    corks Guest

    you will find most braided lines go that way , most direct equal pressure
    route and the least number of joints that can leak or **** up

    dont worry it wont hit, most lines you buy include all the fitting and stuff
    and have been pre built for your bike

    ive got goodridge ones on my trx and they are great.

    i went for clear lines myself, shows off the nice shiny new braiding and
    again might be hany is id-ing leaks that the coloured lines would obscure,
    you can go poofy and coolur colour match to your handbag if you like ;-)
     
    corks, Apr 13, 2005
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  3. GB

    FuTAnT Guest

    There's been plenty of talk about this very subject at the moment on a few
    forums etc.

    There's no traps with your major players, ie Goodridge, Galfer, HEL etc.

    You can order these through lots of aussie places quite easily. The HEL kits
    are very good value at around $150 for stainless fittings, with a colour of
    line choice and banjo choice to suit your application.

    The two line kits you speak off are the most common aftermarket fitment as
    they offer a more equal pressure to each caliper, with less banjos and fuss.
    This is what the race bikes use etc.

    And finally, there are some ebay stores which you can pick up 3 lines kits
    (front 2 line, + rear) for around $150 - $180 AUD landed and delivered etc.
    The technicalities about whether or not they would be legal if they didn't
    have the AS sticker on them, even though the same model sold in Oz does
    infact meet AS I'm not quite sure about. Do some research. Bang for buck and
    quality would prob be the HEL lines sold in Oz.

    Cam
     
    FuTAnT, Apr 13, 2005
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  4. GB

    glitch1 Guest

    Make sure they're road-legal, that's all (tag with approval numbers on the
    the master cyl. end0
    Goodridge are, don't know about others. Certainly plenty around.
    Dual line is preferrable but fitting might need some inventiveness.
    In order to route 2 separate lines and prevent rubbing/ snagging etc. I bent
    some fencing wire into "spirals" with a tight 3/4 loop at the centre,fixed
    into the space of the old T-piece.
    Still no marks on the lines after nearly 30.000km.

    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Apr 13, 2005
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  5. A snippet of info in my "interesting things" file (saved from this
    newsgroup a year or two back) is a note that Pirtek in Mascot have the
    gear/certification to custom make street legal brake hoses for
    motorcycles, and that they do it at quite reasonable rates. I've never
    used them myself, but I've got their phone number here: 9317 2388

    Might be worth a call (and if you do, post to let us know how you get
    on...)

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Apr 14, 2005
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  6. GB

    Psycho Biker Guest

    Blunderbuss comes with twin lines, put twin lines back, ratio of line to
    master cylinder maybe go fuckup, oops no brakes.
    while you're at it do braided clutch, much better on 96 buss.
    leave the back as is, unless you want look pretty.

    --
    Psycho Biker
    maniac_yzf_biker@(nospam)yahoo.com.au

    I support Gay marriage
    (but only if both chicks are hot)
     
    Psycho Biker, Apr 16, 2005
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  7. GB

    IK Guest

    What???
     
    IK, Apr 16, 2005
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  8. GB

    Psycho Biker Guest

    the thunderace (YZF1000R 1996) has 2 hoses going from the master cylinder to
    the front calipers (1 each), this is what the master cylinder is set up for,
    saw a guy change his to 1 into 2, his brakes didn't work right after that,
    changed back to 2 hoses (as std) brakes worked fine again
    --
    Psycho Biker


    I'm currently being distracted by a shiny object
     
    Psycho Biker, Apr 16, 2005
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