bridge toll

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by F Murtz, Jan 11, 2009.

  1. F Murtz

    F Murtz Guest

    anyone know if the cashless toll on the Sydney Harbour bridge is one way
    (as was)or is it both ways (if it is it's another rort)
     
    F Murtz, Jan 11, 2009
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  2. F Murtz

    GB Guest

    I think that question might be adequately answered by considering for
    a moment the consquequences for the already immensely unpopular NSW
    state government of what would constitute a doubling of the existing
    bridge/tunnel toll. I think that if the minister for transport were
    to so much as breath the idea in passing, our state parliment would
    quickly reflect that of Taiwan's, as other MPs scrambled to silence
    the stupid bastard "before we all get killed by our constituents".

    No, it shall be one way, southbound.


    GB
     
    GB, Jan 11, 2009
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  3. F Murtz

    Diogenes Guest

    That's 'cos you haven't mastered Reading 101 yet, Iain...

    Here... I'll explain it for you, diddums...

    He's saying if the immensely unpopular government doubled the charges
    the consequences (for said government) would lead to a defeat at the
    polls, therefore they will only charge one way.

    There, that wasn't so hard, was it Iain?


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    Onya bike

    Gerry
     
    Diogenes, Jan 12, 2009
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  4. F Murtz

    Uri Gestit Guest

    A little sarcasm deserves a little more... :)

    So you call what you posted "a rant about NSW politics"???

    Hmmm... I guess there's rants and then there's rants...

    "Mark 1/10 : Note for your mother: Iain is lazy. He can do much
    better."


    Uri

    Currently riding: Ural Gear Up (Orange Camo)
    http://www.imz-ural.com/gearup/#
     
    Uri Gestit, Jan 12, 2009
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  5. Wasn't the bridge was fully paid for in 1988,?
    therefore the tolls should not exist

    Use the bridge to avoid paying the toll in the tunnel, but you pay the
    bridge toll to pay for the tunnel.

    Damned if you do and damned if you don't

    The West Gate Bridge in Melbourne was finished in 1978 and the tolls removed
    in 1985 after the bridge was paid for.
    Why can't Sydney follow suit?

    At 150,000 vehicles using the Sydney Harbour Bridge every day (Gov. stats)

    Copied from a web page :
    The Harbour Bridge was officially opened on 19 March 1932. The total cost of
    the Bridge was approximately 6.25 million Australian pounds ($A13.5
    million), and was eventually paid off in 1988. The initial toll for a car
    was 6 pence (5 cents) and a horse and rider was 3 pence (2 cents). Today the
    toll costs $3.00. The toll is now used for bridge maintenance and to pay for
    the Sydney Harbour Tunnel. The annual maintenance costs are approximately $5
    million. More than 150,000 vehicles cross the bridge each day.


    given that half of those 150,000 vehicles, 75,000 would be travelling South
    At $3 a time, then that is $225,000 a day X 365 days a year
    Works out to $82,125,000.00 for the year
    Good GovCo. ripoff
     
    George W Frost, Jan 12, 2009
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  6. F Murtz

    Diogenes Guest

    Wot 'e said...


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    Onya bike

    Gerry
     
    Diogenes, Jan 12, 2009
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  7. F Murtz

    Diogenes Guest

    Because the Cosa Nostra pulls the strings...


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    Onya bike

    Gerry
     
    Diogenes, Jan 12, 2009
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  8. The answer of course is 'whatever is required to ensure that after the
    executive and director salaries have been paid and the shareholder's
    dividends have been distributed, there is _just_ enough money left over
    to maintain the road at just below whatever the set minimum level of
    maintenance proscribed by the government may be'.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
    '08 DL1000K8
     
    Fulliautomatix, Jan 12, 2009
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  9. Sounds just like typical Government gobbledegook
     
    George W Frost, Jan 12, 2009
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  10. F Murtz

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Heh heh; when I did my Technical Officer (they said it was based on an
    associate diploma of electronics) course at work I'd been a long time out of
    school and I just about blew it by underestimating how hard it was gonna be
    and doing zero preparation.
    I got a rude shock when I got 20% on my first exam and really knuckled down
    but still only manged 48 on the second one. The third was the biggie and I
    had to ring interstate to get my results.
    I nervously waited while he looked me up and then replied 94.
    I incredulously blurted out "WHAT?!!?" but then he carefully explained
    "94.... it's a pretty good score....."
     
    Knobdoodle, Jan 12, 2009
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  11. F Murtz

    GB Guest

    Yeah, in 2008 I got four coursework High Distinctions, two published
    papers, ran two conferences, spoke at another conference, taught four
    thirteen-week classes, spoke at eight 'postgraduate information evenings,
    counselled a whole class of terrified honours students through their
    beloved mentor being fired without ever letting on that he was fired for
    fucking one of them, caught four (committed) plagiarists, got two of my
    students and one of my classmates full-time jobs at various universities,
    introduced a kid from Tasmania to the sport of geocaching and a woman
    from Manly to the sport of motorcycling, got knocked off my motorcycle
    three times by SMIDSY fuckers in cars, got a bloke from Essex hired
    as a full-time academic and got a bent cop called to account.

    Tomorrow I'm getting carpeted because I don't have a topic for my
    thesis yet.


    I know exactly how you feel big.


    GB, apparently I failed to deliver a partridge in a fuckin' pear tree.
     
    GB, Jan 12, 2009
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  12. F Murtz

    GB Guest

    Uh, you're from around here, aren't you! :)


    GB
     
    GB, Jan 12, 2009
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  13. F Murtz

    GB Guest

    Mate, I got ninety for one of my exams this year, and my missus
    made me ring up and complain. Apparently 88 is luckier!


    GB, she who must be obeyed is Chinese!
     
    GB, Jan 12, 2009
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  14. F Murtz

    G-S Guest

    Bloody underachievers!


    G-S
     
    G-S, Jan 12, 2009
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  15. F Murtz

    BS Guest

    No idea, but it's just another of many reasons I'm glad to not be living
    in Sydney. Not living there also has the added benefit of not only
    avoiding those problems, but of being entertained by the endless
    complaints of those who willingly subject themselves to such miseries
    without ever getting off their arses and moving somewhere better. :)
     
    BS, Jan 14, 2009
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  16. I moved to Cairns around 6 years ago.

    Went down to Sydney a few months ago and the traffic had become even more of
    a nightmare than when I lived there.

    .......And friends in Sydney ask me "Don't you miss Sydney"
     
    RamRod Sword of Baal, Jan 14, 2009
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  17. Last time I drove in Sydney was 3 years ago. The CBD was insane. I was
    there last year but we public transporting it and you don't tend to
    notice it as much if you aren't in amongst it dealing with it.

    But 3 years ago I left the airport in a rental car heading to my hotel
    at around 9 o'clock at night. There was a UBD in the glovebox, but as
    I used to work in the CBD near where the hotel is I figured I didn't
    need it. I'd been back to Sydney on bike and in car several times
    since 1990 when I moved from there, but hadn't returned to the CBD as
    I never saw the point, even when I lived there. When I got in there,
    it was just full of buses and taxis, nowhere to pull over and check
    UBD to see what streets are now one-way and plan a route to get where
    I wanted to go, so I just kept pushing on until I finally got there.

    It's certainly changed. Chuck the insane parking charges (I paid $45
    for half an hour in one off-street park near the Opera House) I guess
    they are trying to stop people bringing cars into the CBD. Wonder how
    long before they try London's trick?
     
    Kevin Gleeson, Jan 14, 2009
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  18. In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 14 Jan 2009 21:21:38 GMT
    They already are. Just incompetently. (you expected something else?)

    They are about to make the Bridge toll higher in "peak" meaning
    something like 7am to 10am and 4pm to 6pm. Not, however, high enough
    to be a real deterrent, just high enough to make some money. And only
    on the Bridge, nowhere else.

    (I note that the first working day the Bridge went cashless,
    Gladesville Bridge and Victoria Raod were a carpark. Worse than
    normal carpark. "Shock" and "horror" went the pollies. "Couldn't
    find their arse with both hands and a map" was the general verdict on
    said pollies.)

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Jan 14, 2009
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  19. F Murtz

    BS Guest

    I really don't understand why they can't just levy a flat $5 toll on any
    vehicle entering the CBD during daylight hours any day of the week, and
    ramp up public transport (at prices that put it below the cost of
    bringing in a car) sufficiently to take up the demand that the tolls
    will generate. oh wait, yes I do understand...it's because they're
    bloody hopeless.
     
    BS, Jan 15, 2009
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  20. F Murtz

    Nev.. Guest

    I;m not sure they're trying to discourage anyone. I think as long as
    there are people who are rich/stupid/lazy/desperate enough to pay $45 to
    park their car for 1/2 hour they'll encourage as many of those people as
    possible to continue to do it... the more the better.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
    '08 DL1000K8
     
    Nev.., Jan 15, 2009
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