British Pluck

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by HarleyMan, Feb 22, 2007.

  1. HarleyMan

    Krusty Guest

    Google 'orders in council' & 'royal perogative', particularly wrt
    Chagos, to see how Queenie can & does trample over democracy & High
    Court judgements at a whim.


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  2. HarleyMan

    Cab Guest

    I suppose the thought that one bit of air looks very much like another
    and the poor dears get very confused.
     
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  3. platypus wrote
    Maybe not but you are a nutter.

    I rest my case.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 26, 2007
  4. Cab wrote
    I count my lucky stars every day. If the rules still apply I can still
    get an Irish passport I think, my paternal Grandmother was a bog
    trotter.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 26, 2007
  5. HarleyMan

    Cab Guest

    We've been down this conversation before, haven't we? We worked out
    that we have an equal percentage of Spiccy genes.
     
    Cab, Feb 26, 2007
  6. HarleyMan

    Lozzo Guest

    Cab says...
    You and I have spoken about it before, but not you and The Ancestor.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 26, 2007
  7. Cab wrote
    Not that I recall but I wouldn't take that as an indication of veracity.

    No Spik genes here mate, pure Northern European right down to the last
    chromosome.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 26, 2007
  8. HarleyMan

    ogden Guest

    I don't see Queenie doing anything much there, rather I see governments
    of the time doing dodgy things in the name of the Queen. Something
    entirely different.

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  9. HarleyMan

    Krusty Guest

    Queenie has to sign the order. Without her signature it can't happen.
    So whilst she may not have come up with the idea, she's the only one
    who can make it happen, & is therefore responsible for it. What makes
    it worse is that this wasn't even a case of 'national security' or
    anything so noble - it was purely dumping on a bunch of her own
    citizens from a great height.

    And the "government of the time" in this case was the current one, who
    chose local election day in 2004 to do it, thus trying to ensure it
    didn't make headline news.

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  10. Look up the phrase "constitutional monarchy" - sure she could refuse to
    sign an order presented to her by the Prime Minister but to do so would
    generate an awful lot of noise and hysteria and probably trigger the
    downfall of one of the two of them[1].
    People in the UK are not 'citizens' - they are subjects. As are members
    of the Commonwealth.

    Phil.

    [1] And I suspect it would be touch and go which one would survive. I
    suspect the house of Saxe-Coburg^H^HWindsor *might* come out on top but
    only just..
     
    Phil Launchbury, Feb 27, 2007
  11. HarleyMan

    Krusty Guest

    One can only hope. Both would be good, but either of them would be a
    good start.



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  12. HarleyMan

    Tim Guest

    Just for the "fun" of it, tell me how many seconds you think a
    constitutional monarch would remain in position should he/she refuse to
    sign a document from the parliament?
     
    Tim, Feb 27, 2007
  13. HarleyMan

    Tim Guest

    It's the ground that's at fault, it's all green. Also the sea cheats
    'cos it all looks the same from up in the clouds.
     
    Tim, Feb 27, 2007
  14. HarleyMan

    Cab Guest

    Excuses, excuses.
     
    Cab, Feb 27, 2007
  15. HarleyMan

    Krusty Guest

    Hopefully less than one second, & we'd finally be rid of the bunch of
    fuckwits. However I can't imagine Blair would survive had she refused
    in this particular case.

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  16. And then we could have a president just like America! Yay!

    Phil
     
    Phil Launchbury, Feb 28, 2007
  17. HarleyMan

    Krusty Guest

    We already have.


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  18. HarleyMan

    M J Carley Guest

    We already have a president just like America's: Tony Blair. How do
    you know we wouldn't get a president like Ireland's: Douglas Hyde,
    Erskine Childers and Mary Robinson were reasonably serious
    intellectuals; France's: Chirac is a crook but, like De Gaulle, he
    told the Americans where to get off; Czechoslovakia's: Vaclav Havel?

    Are things really that bad?
     
    M J Carley, Feb 28, 2007
  19. HarleyMan

    M J Carley Guest

    On the other hand, Republican England had two Cromwells, so they might
    have a point.
     
    M J Carley, Feb 28, 2007
  20. HarleyMan

    ogden Guest

    Say what you like about Cromwell, but he had a deft touch with the
    Irish.

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