How could they ask for help in counter-insurgency *after* they were removed from power? -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..88045../..23727.../..31893. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
Alison Hopkins wrote And you think the conditioning wears off when the shooting stops? You haven't got a clue have you. The paras are the first go in and the first to start dying. The conditioning they undergo is *essential* for them to do their job properly. If they stop for a moment to think about the fate that awaits them they will mutiny. It isn't pleasant but it is a fact. It is also inevitable that they will bring their newly implanted attitudes about King and Country home and you, as their child, will get some of the same conditioning, albeit second hand and what you have written here tonight is as good an example of that as any I could offer.
Cab wrote Walnuts suck. Much better wiv almonds, honest. Tunisia probably, given the historical connections.
On what scale? One smug git? I could live with that on my conscience. -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..88045../..23727.../..31893. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
http://www.newstatesman.com/200004170017 -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..88045../..23727.../..31893. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
Very few of them are fit enough to complete the training, and fewer still are prepared to accept any form of discipline in their lives. -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..88045../..23727.../..31893. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
"suit you, sir." -- | ___ Salad Dodger |/ \ _/_____\_ GL1500SEV/CBR1100XXX/CBX1000Z |_\_____/_| ..88045../..23727.../..31893. (>|_|_|<) TPPFATUICG#7 DIAABTCOD#9 WG* |__|_|__| BOTAFOT #70 BOTAFOF #09 PM#5 \ |^| / IbW#0 & KotIbW# BotTOS#6 GP#4 \|^|/ ANORAK#17 IbB#4 YTC#4 two#11 '^' RBR Clues: 00 Pts:0000 Miles:0000
And you can **** off, too. Very selective snippage of my post. Did you take any note of the rest of it? Ali
Why? Exactly why is this relevant to this? Another tactic to suggest I shouldn't be posting? Or are you proposing to RFD for a new charter? Ali
Champ wrote For a start the dole queues are much shorter now so there is not the financial pressure and as Cab says, there is the attitude thing. When I were a lad it was "Here's a gun, there's a wog, go and shoot it for the glory of The Empire." Folks just won't stand for that sort of thinking any more.
The last Prince Hal was a bit of an arse in his youth according to The Bard. Randy Andy had a good war so let's hope that young Hal has a good insurgency maintenance, eh?
Just got to figure out a way of getting the seals to fly higher, then. -- platypus "Merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative.”
Champ says... I think you'll find it's more to do with a shift in social values and a lack of discipline in youngsters nowadays. Teenagers today have no concept of discipline from an early gae at school, because the schools aren't allowed to enforce any, they take the piss out of their teachers and get away with it. Do you really think these same kids are going to sign up for the forces? I have friends who've served in all forces since we left school and a bit later, a lot have recently left and some are coming up for retirement. All of them, without exception, say the quality of the new recruits they do get is scandalously low, and these are the ones who make it through the selection process and basic training. The forces' problem with recruiting doesn't have much to do with Iraq, housing, pay or any of these things, but it's got everything to do with the slacker attitudes of the very people they are trying to recruit.
Good point. There are similar problems in commercial recruitment, of course - cue old fart mode, here. I can't believe the illiteracy standards of some of the people we see. We've a twenty seven year old *graduate* who uses text speak in emails. And yet - if you believe reality TV! - as soon as you give people structure, they seem to love it. Not just the Army ones, either. Ali
