Brown down

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, malc

Of course, the ultimate in strong stable government is to be found in
China.

 

Something we can all agree on.

--
Malc

Rusted and ropy.
Dog-eared old copy.
Vintage and classic,
or just plain Jurassic:
all words to describe me.

 

Oh, I don't know. Portugal was a pretty backward place 10 years ago.

Today they're technologically ahead of us in many areas, have been on a
major road building programme and have proper high-speed rail links. All
on a smaller deficit than us.

 

Amazing what you can do when the EU pumps money into your country, isn't
it!

 

Heh, true. Everything has a proudly displayed EU badge on it.

I'm amazed by how much they've done in such a short space of time.

I struggle to get a 3G mobile signal in the centre of Cardiff - yet I
was getting a 3G signal in the arse end of nowhere last week.

But you can see why a single currency was never a great idea - they've
gone from a country comparable with Eastern Bloc countries to somewhere
where they appear to have greater buying power than us in 10 years
without having any real source of income.

 

Guffaw. He's not called "toenails" for nothing, you know.

Blimey, he must have some fucking epic "Road to Damascus" moment over
the last 13 years.

Probably when the BBC offered him an interview.

 

You seem to be under the impression that change is a bad thing. The
electoral system has changed over the years - constituencies and voters
have been enfranchised, the electoral system has changed many times.
Multi-member constituencies aren't a new idea and just because we have
an old parliament, doesn't mean we have the best. As someone else has
pointed out, proportional systems are more common than not, with the
exception of former British colonies which inherited our fuckups along
with some of the things we got right. And many of those have dumped our
system in favour of something more proportional.

You trot out lines about what percentage voted for this or that, when
under the current system a large proportion of the electorate don't vote
*for* something, but *against* something. "Anything but the other lot".
That's fucked up.

And how do you get to the point where the citizenry are given options to
decide on? Telepathy? Letters to the editor? Divination of tea leaves
and magic pixie dust?

Go on, rather than simply criticise, suggest something you think might
be better. Post something positive for once.

 

Heheh, I was thinking exactly the same. In the case of Greece, the Olympics
did help too.

 

As did the Greeks. And then it all came tumbling down.

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, ogden

Things you never thought you'd see Ogden post: #1 in a series of 1.

 

Along with the analogies that actually work, normal service will be
resumed shortly.

 

Did you see Newsnight. Monster reality check. Representitive of the Scottish
Labour party commenting on a Lib-Lab pact bolstered by the SNP. "Over our
dead bodies". Haha it's so obvious. I didn't see Fish Face's offer to
Brown/Clegg in the right context before that. WTF was Salmond thinking of.

The Scottish rep was also dead set against PR, heh I wonder what's made them
think that way.

This really is great to watch.

 

And you and I both know that while those in power have vested interests
which motivates them to prevent any such reform, the opportunity can't
be wasted when it arises.

Constant debate is great. We've had a hundred years of it and the fruit
of that debate - qualified and quantified electoral systems and long-
term policies held by the parties to the debate - means that when the
moment for action comes we don't have to make something up on the spot.

This may be that moment. If it is, I hope it isn't squandered.

 

Maybe. Internal communications are full of references to "long term
national interest", "sustainable agreement" and "the four key principles
of the manifesto".

And that's the key - any coalition agreement may, ultimately, have to be
approved by representatives of the party membership whose views are
currently being canvassed. Hardly surprising that electoral reform is
firmly on the agenda.

 

He's so far up Gordon Brown's arse, only his toenails are visible.

 

Yeah, it was a manifesto commitment in 1997.

 

Britain did the same, but without the euro.

 

TFFT

 

malc escribió:

I really must look more deeply into how this works.

But anyway, here, after any election, there is always pacting. Noone knows
who they're voting for, because they all make deals after. Weird, there's a
village down the road from here that has PP (right wing) in power, supported
by the communists, to keep the socialists out. Admittedly, that's at local
level, but national is the same. The PSOE currently have a tiny majority,
but absolute power guaranteed by their various pacts. Whores, the lot of
them.

 

Paul Carmichael escribió:

Can someone explain this to me?

http://electionresources.org/es/maps.php?election=2008

I think it's a ****-up. Stick with what you've got.