Brunstrom is a twat

Have you thought this one through? The motorcyclists you approve of are in
the same line of traffic as you travelling at the same speed so you
inevitably won't see them very often. Of course you will see the ones
overtaking you but that doesn't make that the majority!

 

I have never tried to pretend that car drivers are perfect - in fact far
from it. That seems to be something that is ignored by many bikers however.
In pursuing their arguments for the 'safety' of high-speed biking they seem
to ignore the fact that they are putting their lives into the hands of other
idiots on the road who are likely to undertake stupid manoeuvres without any
warning.
This is something that is very close to me. I have a nephew who was a
constable in the Met. He has been in a wheelchair, paralysed from the chest
down, for the past ten years following a bike accident. He was the pillion
passenger and was thrown off when an old fool pulled out in front of them.

Uno-Hoo!

 

The fastest speed I every travelled when driving a police car was on an
Advanced Driving Course. It was on the Chester by-pass (dual carriageway)
and I reached 140 mph in a Rover 827. Did the world end? No of course it
didn't. Did I feel particularly safe or comfortable at that speed? No I
didn't - because I was very much aware of my limited options at that speed
if any other driver did something stupid in front of me, or there was any
catastrophic mechanical failure within the car.

You cannot avoid physics. The faster you are travelling - the less the
safety margin and the greater the stress and strain on the vehicle you are
driving - and the greater the danger of more serious injury if something
goes wrong.

I can put is very simply - during my period driving traffic cars I was
called upon to drive at very high speeds on innumerable occasions. Over
that time I went through a number of 'hairy moments' - usually when another
motorist did something stupid. Those were my 'Jeeeesus Chriiiist' moments
(despite the fact that I am a militant atheist!). Since retiring I have had
none of those hairy moments - simply because I no longer drive at high
speed. You just cannot get away from the fact that the faster you go - the
more potential there is for something to go wrong. I love my life to the
full and so I now never ever take even the slightest risk that I can avoid.
If an overtake looks even slightly dodgy - then I wont take it. Why should
I? What effect will it have on my life to simply sit back and wait for the
next, safer, opportunity? None whatsoever - and yet the implications for my
life (and that of my passengers and other drivers) of taking even the
slightest risk that does not pay off, could be devastating. It's just not
worth it!


Uno-Hoo!

 

Done

Uno-Hoo!

 

The '****' is and, after 30 years in the construction industry*, always
has been a part of my vocabulary. Sorry if you don't like it.

(If it's good enough for Chaucer, it's good enough for me.....)


*Actually heard it used more in the following years I spent in IT.....

 

Mine was an auto and, IIRC, the whole power train was lifted out of
some shite old Renault. It was no quicker than the 2.0 litre 740s and
certainly shedloads slower than the 850 that followed.

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I though it was some shite old Peugeot, mind you if you had said truck
division no one would argue.

Tortoise and Hair syndrome. It would cruise with the needle at or about
2.5k revs all day which was about 10%+2.

Different machine, as they proved by racing them very successfully.

 

What utter bollox. Much cheaper than similar sized big engined family
saloons, utterly reliable, routine servicing was no more than a Fraud
would cost and apart from the odd bulb utterly reliable so cost of
spares was negligible.

Yebbut you are the kind of self obsessed righteous tosser who would be
happy doing 40 in the middle lane of the motorway simply because you
could. I am somewhat different and don't hold to the view that you
should be a rolling road block just because you are towing a 'van. Mind
you if I saw some idiot towing with an under powered Rover I would
always make a point of getting in front and easing off at the start of a
long hill and then fucking off into the distance to leave him with the
blame.

 

That's true... IIRC there are more people killed in the UK by falling
down stairs than by riding, or failing to ride, motorbikes.

 

To be fair, it is and it isn't... You're a lot more likely to kill
yourself if you hit something at 100mph rather than at 5mph... The
*important* part of the whole exercise is to avoid hitting things.

 

This concurs with my experience. I've had 3 impact accidents in my life
- all have occurred at less than 30 mph.

Phil.

 

Germany has speed limits on all roads except for a small proportion of
the autobahn network.

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I doubt it very much. Your old-time mores may lead you to believe
otherwise, but police tuition these days is very much based around
'making progress' to the extent that it would be deemed a bad thing to
be sitting in a line of traffic if it were moving at less than the
speed limit, as one may infer from 'cruising'.

All of that is perfectly normal, reasonable behaviour, provided it's
done such as to not cause other motorists any actual inconvenience. Of
course, if it serves to piss off small-minded cunts like yourself then
that's just a bonus.

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I have no objections to motorcyclists overtaking - it's the manner in which
so many of them do it that concerns me.

Uno-Hoo!

 

My experience is similar - twice in the past five years I've been run into
the back of while stationary - but these are minor bumps. The vast majority
of fatal and serious accidents I attended during my time on traffic involved
high speed in one way or another. Whilst speed may not necessarily have been
the direct 'cause' of the accident - it certainly contributed to the tragic
results. It's physics you see.

Are you more likely to be killed if I throw a bullet at you, or fire it from
a gun? You see speed does kill!! ;-)

Uno-Hoo!

 

There is a very important 1-letter word at the start of that sentance.
'I'.

Other people have a different (and equally valid) view.

And that sentance should be terminated with "in my view".

Think about the difference between subjective and objective sometime.
And about how many of your views are subjective and how many are
objective.

Phil

 

Absolute rubbish as usual.

Uno-Hoo!

 

But it still has no maximum national speed restriction.

hell, I'd be happy if we had the Italian maximum of 150km/h as imposed
on the route from Milan to Bologna.

Although at 150km/h I still feel like I'm going backwards.

 

You couldn't be more wrong. On the motorway I tow at an indicated 69 mph
which is an actual 63 mph. I do tend to get stuck in the middle lane -
behind truck drivers who take 5 miles to overtake another truck and, of
course, I am not allowed when towing to move into the outside lane to get
past.


I am somewhat different and don't hold to the view that you

Neither do I - and I also get frustrated when I'm stuck behind another
caravanner driving at a rigid 50 mph (which is invariably an actual 45 mph).
I tow on NSL roads, where it is safe to do so, at an indicated 59 mph -which
is an actual 53 mph.

Mind

And that just about sums up the type of driver you are are does it not?
Incidentally, hills do not bother me when towing. I can haul up the M5 from
Bristol at an indicated 69 mph without the car breaking into a sweat.

Uno-Hoo!

Uno-Hoo!

 

For some reason I read that as "twice in the past five years I've been
run into the back of while sodomy"