Brunstrom is a twat

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Steve Firth, Apr 27, 2007.

  1. Steve Firth

    Andrew998 Guest


    Just shows how wrong you can be!
     
    Andrew998, May 2, 2007
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  2. Steve Firth

    Steve Firth Guest

    The only time the experiment was performed the answer was "yes". Not
    only that but when the experiment was reversed (from no speed limit to a
    set limit) the data showed that the accident rate got worse.

    Can you point to any data, rather than your finely honed gut-feeling?
     
    Steve Firth, May 2, 2007
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  3. Steve Firth

    Steve Firth Guest

    Would you like to have a look at the recent gun death stats for the UK?
    Up 35% despite pointless legislation.

    And gun crime in the USA has declined by 27%.

    Switzerland has very liberal gun laws compared to the UK - perfectly
    legal to own fully automatic assault weapons - and yet it has a
    significantly lower murder rate (1.2/100,000 vs 1.6/100,000 in England
    and Wales, 2.16/100,000 in Scotland, 2.65/100,000 in NI).
     
    Steve Firth, May 2, 2007
  4. Steve Firth

    Steve Firth Guest

    Steady! You don't want to overload him.

    What did make me laugh is that despite being dropped broadbrush hints
    about how come I could waltz in and out of his Police HQ, he couldn't
    work out who I am or how I managed to do it. Heh.
     
    Steve Firth, May 2, 2007
  5. Steve Firth

    Andrew998 Guest

    Yes and you've changed your tune. Earlier you stated you wouldn't break the
    limit not that you would do so in a way you didn't think would get you
    caught.
     
    Andrew998, May 2, 2007
  6. Steve Firth

    Steve Firth Guest

    You would know, if you didn't stick your head in a paper bag.
     
    Steve Firth, May 2, 2007
  7. Steve Firth

    Steve Firth Guest

    Using a licensed firearm?

    No.

    So gun control hardly worked there, did it?
     
    Steve Firth, May 2, 2007
  8. Steve Firth

    Andrew998 Guest


    Indeed. It's also harder at 70mph than at 5mph. Following that logic we
    should probably all just stay home. Of course more people would die because
    household accident rates are much higher than road accident rates.

    The truth is that a skilled, experienced driver will often be safer
    travelling at 100mph than an unskilled, inexperienced driver at 50mph.
     
    Andrew998, May 2, 2007
  9. Steve Firth

    Steve Firth Guest

    Amusing that he's now preaching that it's OK to break the law if the
    chances of being caught are small.

    Kevin Lunn obviously believes that it's OK to shoplift, steal from an
    employer, and to ride an uninsured motorbike without MoT or even a
    driving licence. All crimes with a low arrest rate.

    Heck, he's no different from the bloke who rode around with a T-shirt
    reading "Piss off and catch some real criminals".
     
    Steve Firth, May 2, 2007
  10. Steve Firth

    Andrew998 Guest


    Very good point. The speed limits in the last few years really have become a
    joke. Round here most of the NSLs have changed to 40mph even though the
    roads were perfectly safe. Can you imagine a traffic officer wanting to
    enforce them?
     
    Andrew998, May 2, 2007
  11. Absolutely not.

    There are many who are much more skilled[1][2] than I but I am of the
    opinion that "an average" biker is significantly more skilled than "an
    average" car driver. I certainly work a lot less hard when driving than
    when riding. Riding engages me completely, driving is easy in
    comparison.


    [1] Of course now we lay ourselves open to a definition of what
    constitutes the necessary skills.

    [2] In certain specific areas
     
    steve auvache, May 2, 2007
  12. Steve Firth

    DR Guest

    Try the stats for Canada. A far higher percentage of gun ownership,
    yet a much smaller percentage of gun deaths.
     
    DR, May 2, 2007
  13. Steve Firth

    Ian Dalziel Guest

    <waves>
    I do!
     
    Ian Dalziel, May 2, 2007
  14. Steve Firth

    Ian Dalziel Guest

    That would be A Good Thing.

    But I'm not convinced speed limits make a blind bit of difference to
    *inappropriate speed* and *dangerous driving* (at any speed) anyway.
     
    Ian Dalziel, May 2, 2007
  15. The greater function of a funeral is to achieve closure for the
    breaved relatives, to clear the air.

    A Catholic Priest once told me that a good funeral brings everyone
    together, once it's over with it's the occasion of a rare meeting
    between members of the family who ordinarily wouldn't get to talk to
    each other.

    Whereas weddings OTOH are, as like as not, miserable affairs.

    However, to find years afterwards that at the funeral you had the body
    wasn't complete, and I don't mean core biopsy samples I mean whole
    organs missing, re-opens the whole issue.

    NB I do think that the most recent cases where surviving relatives are
    complaining about biopsy samples etc is a complaint too far.

    Or paraphrasing what Shakespeare said "They complain too much".

    DG
     
    Derek Geldard, May 2, 2007
  16. Steve Firth

    Andrew998 Guest


    Only if they were allowed to do that. With the current government's
    obsession with stats they'd get rid of cameras, put in loads of TrafPol but
    give them a target number of prosecutions. And speeding prosecutions are
    easy compared to dangerous driving ones.

    I think most people in these groups know what would work best and is
    sensible but it's the likes of Uno that would get their way.
     
    Andrew998, May 2, 2007
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    Adrian Guest

    Uno-Hoo! (Uno-Hoo@NOSPAMbigfootdotcom) gurgled happily, sounding much
    like they were saying :
    Fine. So you accept that this biker was committing other, more serious
    offences than mere speeding.

    So I presume you accept that Chief Cuntstubble Brainstawm is in the wrong
    using this particular case as an example of the evils of SPEEDING - since
    that offence is of minor importance to this particular case?
     
    Adrian, May 2, 2007
  18. Steve Firth

    Rich B Guest

    I don't dislike it, in the way that I don't dislike comb-overs on
    middle-aged men. They are silly, and faintly amusing, and generally add to
    the gaiety of nations.

    But it does make you look a bit of a dick.
     
    Rich B, May 2, 2007
  19. Steve Firth

    Rich B Guest

    Typo corrected.
     
    Rich B, May 2, 2007
  20. Steve Firth

    Rich B Guest

    Never used by Chaucer (well, not in writing, anyways). The common term in
    the 14C was "swyve".
     
    Rich B, May 2, 2007
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