But, what can you do?

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by John, Jan 21, 2005.

  1. John

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Nothing explains the girls in Excels. Now Accents.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 24, 2005
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  2. John

    BT Humble Guest

    Tarago to Mildura at 60km/h is a bit further.


    BTH
     
    BT Humble, Jan 24, 2005
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  3. Try riding while naked except for a Santa hat...

    Scared Postman Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Jan 24, 2005
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  4. John

    Yeowow Guest

    Not sure how it is down South, but here in NSW L 'permits'/licenses
    aren't eligible for demerit points, so through the L period, go for your
    life and leave the L plates behind. Enjoy the road without feeling too slow.

    Getting busted just results in a <$80 fine, which I would rather take
    than having to deal with assholes tailgating me everywhere.
     
    Yeowow, Jan 24, 2005
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  5. John

    Batfastard Guest

    Of course this does not guarantee idiot free riding.

    Last friday I was riding along at the speed limit (80KPH) and some
    monkey in a Dunnydore decided that I was going too slow for him to
    follow. As is customary in my town, the driver sat RIGHT on my
    tailpipe in an effort to speed me up.

    In respose to his tailgating I firstly touched the rear brake a number
    of times (flashing the brake light as a subtle 'Back Off' hint)

    That didn't work.

    I slowed down to 60KPH. My rationale being that
    a) he would overtake me (albeit over double lines),
    b) if I got hit I'd prefer to be going slow and
    c) it would piss him off.

    That didn't work.

    I turned around in the saddle and made a non-offensive 'Back Off'
    gesture to shoo him away (no, not THAT gesture - a non-offensive one!
    True story!).

    That didn't work.

    I slowed down to 40KPH. See above for rationale.

    After travelling about 500M @40KPH the idiot got the message and
    backed off.

    I waved 'Thanks', and sped back up to 80KPH.


    Obviously he couldn't hear what I was saying to him inside my helmet,
    but for all intensive porpoises [1] I was a sweet, innocent, law
    abiding and courteous citizen doing his part to keep the roads safe.


    BF


    [1] I reckon he looked a bit like a sailor. But I might be wrong.
     
    Batfastard, Jan 24, 2005
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  6. John

    John Littler Guest

    Might want to recheck that, I think you'll find that you have 4 points
    as a learner motorcyclist if you don't already have a full car licence
    (in which case you have 12 they don't differentiate between motorcycle
    and car offences). They changed it quite a few years ago now.

    JL
     
    John Littler, Jan 24, 2005
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  7. Careful Theo, not _all_ girls in Excels have accents, you might be
    accused of racial sterotyping there...

    big
     
    Iain Chalmers, Jan 24, 2005
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  8. John

    Boxer Guest

    Not all girls in Excels are girls too.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Jan 24, 2005
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  9. John

    Boxer Guest

    Riding as far as practical to the left hand side of the road is bloody
    dangerous, so clearly not practical.

    The right hand wheel path is the best, out of the oil drop zone, out of the
    cut up left shoulder zone, in the mirrors of the car in front, and
    presenting a real obstacle to the nut behind you.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Jan 24, 2005
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  10. John

    Knobdoodle Guest

    This used to be the rule in Qld too but now it says "does not apply to the
    rider of a motorbike".
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Jan 24, 2005
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  11. On 24/1/05 5:17 PM, in article
    41f493cb$0$2424$, "Yeowow"
    When did that change?

    It was that way some 10/15 years ago, I'd be amazed if it had reverted
    back.

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Jan 24, 2005
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  12. John

    Batfastard Guest

    Shit - can't even track who wrote that bit...

    I think the term 'As near as practical' introduces an element of
    subjectivity into the question.

    ie. "It wasn't practical to put myself in a position where the
    cocksucker in the Econoliner could get the idea into his head that he
    could safely overtake me on double lines without running into oncoming
    traffic, Officer."

    BF
     
    Batfastard, Jan 24, 2005
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  13. John

    Yeowow Guest

    If you don't hold anything above an L class it says something along the
    lines of "The L license class is not bound by the demerit point scheme,
    but the license may be revoked by the discretion of the RTA".

    I remember seeing it not that long ago before I decided to proceed onto
    higher classes for car and bike.
     
    Yeowow, Jan 24, 2005
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  14. John

    Nev.. Guest

    I remember reading in the bike mags in the early 90s that in Perth the WA
    police (and particularly motorcycle police) were actually targeting and
    booking motorcyclists who failed to ride as far to the left of the lane as
    practicable.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Jan 24, 2005
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  15. John

    Nev.. Guest

    Of course it does and that's because the alternative is to set a mandatory
    distance.. and even the lawmakers realised that would be absurd.

    (Actually I think the word used is "practicable" rather than "practical").

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
     
    Nev.., Jan 24, 2005
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  16. John

    John Littler Guest

    RTA website seems to be down so I can't check, oh well. Google's cached
    copy of the Ls blurb doesn't say either way.

    I can say for sure that what you say USED to be true - I racked up about
    6 points on my Ls,and stayed on my Ls for 18months because of it, but I
    could have sworn I heard/read they worked out the loop hole and changed
    it. It's been 20 years since I was on my Ls...

    JL
     
    John Littler, Jan 24, 2005
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  17. Moike, in south Aussie, driving rule is: "When driving on any unlaned
    yeah?

    NOTE...he sez UNLANED road...no centre line
    single lane - 1 centre line, traffic each way
    dual lane - 2 lanes each way, presumably grouped together
    this one is weird...does that mean "keep left unless overtaking" does
    not apply on 100 kph freeways in SA?
     
    fulliautomatix, Jan 24, 2005
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  18. John

    Moike Guest

    The national road rules have a specific exemption for motorcycles with
    regard to keeping left on a road with one lane in each direction. The
    keep left rule doesn't apply on multi-lane roads unless the posted speed
    limit is *over* 80k/h or there is signage that says you must keep left
    unless overtaking.

    http://www.vicroads.vic.gov.au/vrpdf/randl/part_11.pdf

    The South Australian rules are the same in these matters.
    http://www.parliament.sa.gov.au/Catalog/legislation/Regulations/a/1999.219.un.htm

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jan 24, 2005
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  19. John

    Moike Guest

    Your understanding is incomplete. read the next paragraph in the SA
    road rules.

    Moike
     
    Moike, Jan 24, 2005
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  20. John

    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Cool!

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Jan 24, 2005
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