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Well, I'm quite undecided about this "tony, who's tony" bunch of Labour
politicians.

However, tonight Paxman interviewed David Milliband and I was quite amused.

They showed a video that had some statistics of which Milliband was
unaware. Rather than obfuscate he simply said, "I don't know" and "let me
get back to you."

This weirded me out.

Then, when Paxman went on and on about a referendum, despite being told it
was no longer an issue once or twice, Milliband played his trump card. It
even got a smile from Paxman.

Paxman: when will you have a referendum over the EU constitution.
Milliband: 306b, it's a dead parrot.

This is the sort of politician I want.

"No. Yes. **** off. Does a bear shit in the woods. He's a twat etc."

 

but the best bit was Paxman saying to Milliband

"Don't patronise me"

.... stony silence

 

Not really. Milliband was waiting for Paxman to ask a valid question rather
than re-read something from his crib sheet. Paxman patronises every
interviewee nowadays. He has transcended from being incisive to being a
pastiche of what has gone before. He seems to be going through the motions,
constantly looking down at his clipboard and asking the same bloody
question. Well, he did that 10 years ago. It's boring now.

For incisive interviews I think Gavin Esler and Kirsty Wark are better
value now.

 

He' a twat!

In another interview, Milliband was asked, again about the Eu referendum. He
replied " It's not up to the public, but to Parliament to decide these
things!"

What a pompous Twat, this is a democracy after all, and the Gubmint as it
stands now, has not been voted in by the electorate.

It is up to the people of the country to decide these issues, be it via an
independent referendum, or by the voted-in representatives of the people.

Just my 2p, I'll go and take another tablet now and have a nice a cup of tea
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Greybeard wrote:

Really? Which members haven't been elected by ballot?

 

All of them!
If you take the fact that Gordon Brown has walked up to the Podium.
He, wasn't voted in, therefore, the cabinet that he has selected hasn't been
voted in for the job.
The MP's may have been voted in to there position, but that was under the
wanker TB's leadership.

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Great, a reasoned argument with solid logic and a completely
dispassionate execution. This is why I think UKRM is great.

 

I don't remember a box on my ballot paper labelled Prime Minister.
Representative democracy, not direct innit? Well, of a somewhat flawed
kind, but let's not start the PR debate again...


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I'm in rather a quandary over the value of responding.

 

After being elected as an MP by his constituents. We don't operate a
presidential style of government where we vote for a person, we vote in a
party. Whoever is leader of that party at the time is "Boss", but that can
change and there's nothing strange or wrong about it. All those in the
cabinet have been voted into office by the public.

Of course he was voted in, as were all those in the cabinet.

And that makes a difference in what way?


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The UK is a representative democracy. That Parliament should shoulder the
decision-making is right and proper and in line with the UK 'Constitution'.

Nor do the British 'vote for a Prime Minister', but for a party. Gordon
Brown is the leader of the party with the majority in the House of Commons
and as such there is no 'illegitimacy' whatsoever in the fact that he is
currently Prime Minister.

That's what they're doing.

D.

 

You don't have a mandate to respond. You need to organise a plebiscite
beforehand, or any response you do make will be constituionally
inadmissible.

 

Confident little bugger, isn't he. Colour me quietly impressed.

 

Another entry into the "dumbest things said on UKRM" contest.

 

When did we have a vote to specifically elect the PM?

 

No, they weren't 'voted in to "there" [sic] position'. Nowhere on a
British ballot paper will you see 'Home Secretary: tick a box' or any of
the other ministries.

The British vote for a party and its members and the leader of the party
with the majority (usually) in the House, forms the government.

John Major 'walked up to the podium' when Thatcher resigned. Didn't that
bother you ?

D.

 

Close enough to being right to be considered as such. Without the 3rd
sentence and the 2nd part of the 4th it would be more so.

 

No. Despite what the press would have you believe, we vote for a local
constituency representative who may, or may not, have specific party
affiliations.

 

Servants of the People by Andrew Rawnsley is a good read if you want get an
insight into how Milliband cut his political teeth. The way that Blairite
Milliband and Brownite Balls spun against each other is quite ironic now
that they are top table lovies.

 

You wish.

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