California motorcycle driving test question (behind the wheel)

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Madhu, May 17, 2006.

  1. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Who the hell would ride a 250 "all over the state?"

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 20, 2006
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  2. Amen. It's like they say about helmets -- what kind of helmet is your
    head worth? Well, I don't know about you, but my head is worth spending
    the money on a good helmet, and my hands (I use a keyboard for a living)
    are worth spending the money on a good set of gloves.
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 20, 2006
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  3. My youngest son does tae kwon do, and they have a poomse (choreographed
    sequence of kicks, spins, etc.) for each belt level, and it is something
    you never would have to use in real life or in a one-on-one competition,
    but it demonstrates how well you have perfected your form. In the same
    way, doing the "figures" part of motorcycle riding demonstrates how well
    you can control your cycle, which is an important skill to have when you
    face the unknown going down city streets.
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 20, 2006
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  4. Indeed, it is. Anybody can keep a bike upright at 70 mph on a straight
    freeway. Being able to handle the U-turn box shows who has skills and who
    doesn't.

    It's hard for me to understand why being able to demonstrate that you can
    control a motorcycle is too much to ask. And you can blow off the U-turn
    box completely, and still pass the BRC.
     
    EffJay R. Yamaha, May 20, 2006
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  5. Madhu

    Madhu Guest

    Thanks Barb.

    I went by the DMV and tried the circle for 20-30 mins. Its a totally
    frustrating exercise to work on.
    I was adviced previously to hit the gas and control with the rear
    brake, which is essentially what you've suggested and something I've
    never done before. I should admit its tough as balls controlling the
    bike speed throughout the circle so that the wheel doesnt wander
    outside the circle.
    Kept my eyes on the path ahead and not the lines to avoid target
    fixation.
    Overall not much succcess today.
    Clearly thats not reliable and I cannot use that in the test.

    Madhu
     
    Madhu, May 20, 2006
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  6. Madhu

    Madhu Guest

    ha ha
    Thanks Turby. I didn't realise SD had been mistaken for South Dakota in
    that post directed at me, esp when I'd mentioned San Diego earlier.
    This is cracking me up!
     
    Madhu, May 20, 2006
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  7. Only the front wheel must stay inside the line, I believe.

    Touching the line is almost certainly OK. It may depend on
    the grader, though.

    After practicing this for about an hour, I was able to do it
    about 90% of the time on an EX500. When I took the test, I
    got almost completely through it, and then just barely put
    my foot down on the very last pass. I looked at the grader
    and said something like, "I just failed, right?" She let me
    do the last bit over, and I managed easily.

    I don't remember using the rear brake at all, but I did pay
    a lot of attention to where my weight was.

    -Patti
     
    Patti Beadles, May 20, 2006
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  8. Madhu

    Polarhound Guest

    2nd gear, stay on the throttle and modulate speed with rear brake.
     
    Polarhound, May 20, 2006
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  9. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Heh. I used to do Tang Soo Do back in the 70s, got up to red belt before
    hang gliding was invented.
    Anyway, about five years ago, I was at a somewhat drunken party in my
    building, talking to a young guy who was taking Shotokan, Japanese karate.

    All of a sudden out of nowhere, the guy throws up a front kick at me.
    Without thinking, I did a cross block, twisted his foot and put him on
    the floor.

    Like riding a bicycle, I guess. You never forget, once it's
    internalized. I was as astonished as he was! :)

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 20, 2006
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  10. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Anyone remember the California motorcycle test in the mid-70s? Now THAT
    one was a bitch! You had to go up a ramp, stop at the top, show some
    real skills...
    I failed it the first time. I'd rented a Honda for the test, but back at
    Ft. Meade, I had a BSA with the brake and shift pedals reversed. I kept
    braking instead of changing gears. Man, I felt stoopid!

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 20, 2006
    #30
  11. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Argh...insanity! Or youth, same thing. The last 3 hours of my ride from
    SF to SD was torture. Probably an Ipod would have helped. If it wasn't
    my back, or my shoulders burning and getting numb, it was my brain,
    harrassing me and boring me simultaneously. I don't know how those guys
    do it!

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 20, 2006
    #31
  12. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    I was TALKING about the DMV test in the parking lot, going around the
    circle!

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 20, 2006
    #32
  13. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    If you want to meet me at the Normal street DMV sometime next week, I
    can probably help you out. Feel free to email me at the address below.

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 20, 2006
    #33
  14. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Yeah...the SD with the palm trees, not elk!

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 20, 2006
    #34
  15. While not the full figure-8, I have had to do double-U a few
    times... Leaving local gas station and trying to get into the left-turn
    lane requires (at times) -- when the signal light has stop straight
    traffic blocking the driveway, but they've left staggered gaps one can
    get a bike through...

    Exit right, loop left around vehicle front, then loop right around
    next lane's vehicle rear, ending in the left turn lane.
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    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG

    HTTP://wlfraed.home.netcom.com/
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    Dennis Lee Bieber, May 20, 2006
    #35
  16. The intent is to do with the brake what a regular machine would do
    by slipping the clutch lever -- keep the engine speed up where it has a
    smooth power output rather than near stalling jerks.
    I suspect you are still looking too close -- your should be looking
    through the center of the circle at the lines on the other side (the
    mantra of the MSF is "look where you want to go, not at what is in front
    of you"

    Since I took the CA BRC (basic rider course) I avoided the lollipop
    test, but I'd expect one should have a 90deg head turn. If the bike is
    remaining at a tangent in the circle your head will be looking directly
    through the center of the circle. If the bike starts "turning in", and
    you maintain a 90deg head turn, your viewpoint will shift to behind the
    center (and vice versa for "turning out")

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    Dennis Lee Bieber, May 20, 2006
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  17. You had a clutch lever, right?

    CVT-based scooters need the rear brake to apply enough tension to
    both slip the centrifugal clutch, and to drive the pulley system into a
    lower ratio for the given engine speed.
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    Wulfraed Dennis Lee Bieber KD6MOG

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    Dennis Lee Bieber, May 20, 2006
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  18. *smile* He just got his brown belt a month or two ago.

    ROTFL! Bet he was surprised!
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 20, 2006
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  19. Oh, I know EXACTLY what you mean. I drove from the San Fran Bay area to
    Phoenix, AZ to my dad's funeral and back so I could ferry my children so
    they could meet some of my dad's family (who came out from the east
    coast), and it was absolute TORTURE.
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 20, 2006
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  20. Madhu

    SoCalMike Guest

    tourmaster cortech lite, with armor and zip-out lining, $45 at the LA
    motorcycle show. last years style, of course.
     
    SoCalMike, May 21, 2006
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