California motorcycle driving test question (behind the wheel)

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Madhu, May 17, 2006.

  1. Madhu

    SoCalMike Guest


    within reason. you reach a certain price point that anything over that
    is just marketing, kewl graf-x, or more unusable venting.
     
    SoCalMike, May 21, 2006
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  2. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    You can really spot novice riders when they are making tight, low speed
    turns. Watching an experienced rider and their machine is like poetry,
    or ballet, a fusion of human and steel. It's wonderful, too, to feel
    that kind of skill and control over a machine that outweighs you by
    several hundred pounds.

    But, lest we get too cocky, inevitably there comes a day when you pull
    into the grocery store parking lot and forget to put the kickstand down,
    or step in a pot hole at a red light and fall over.

    Keeps ME relatively humble, at any rate...

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 21, 2006
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  3. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    The guy was talking about the DMV circle test. I was advising him on the
    technique I used to pass it. I said, " RELY ON YOUR BACK BRAKE ONLY,
    another useless skill that hopefully you will never adopt in real life."

    Real life being that part of riding that does NOT involve riding around
    a circle for the DMV. In real life, you use a combination of front and
    back brakes at various times, and neither one should be solely relied
    upon. Get it now?

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 21, 2006
    #43
  4. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Not as surprised as I was! :)

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 21, 2006
    #44
  5. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Last years style? I can't be seen talking to you on the street now. Dude!
    hahahahaha! The nice thing about my jacket is the guy who sold it used
    it to ride dirt, so it's nicely broken in, scuffed in all the right
    places. I didn't have to do the Hells Angel thing of dragging it behind
    my bike for a few miles to achieve that 'ridden in' look.

    A'course, the only reason I bought it is because my old jacket finally
    just fell apart. The zipper quit zipping, one of the snaps on the
    epaulette broke, so the flap pummeled the side of my helmet at speed.
    Stuff started falling off it. I still have it, of course. Classic 50s
    style motorcycle leather. I just realized, I bought that thing in 1983!
    It saw me through the punk rock daze (hence the faux leopard fur on the
    collar) through rain, wind and snow. It has history. I should just chuck
    it out, but I *can't!*

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 21, 2006
    #45
  6. Madhu

    Timberwoof Guest

    I can make tight low-seed turns, but I'm just not as comfortable doing
    that on my motorcycle as I am doing that on ice skates.

    I'm one of those wimpy hockey players: padded pants for my butt, pads on
    my knees and elbows, helmet, padding everywhere. I'd have to *try* to
    get hurt falling down in all that. So as a result I can practice skating
    tight turns all I want, fall down all I need to to learn the edge of the
    envelope, and get pretty good.

    But my motorcycle is a different thing. It's all shiny and pretty and
    nice, and dropping it makes it not so nice. And while I don't mind
    falling down with forty pounds of gear on when skating, falling down
    with a 550# motorcycle is not something I want to risk. Thus I don't
    practice that tight stuff as I ought to and thus I feel and probably
    look pretty clunky doing it. :/ (Well, okay, I can usually make a
    U-turn without putting my feet down, but it's an adventure.)

    I guess I should buy myself a $1k beater bike and practice with that.
    (Uhoh. What that leads to is getting a dual-sport bike and putting
    Tourances on it: instant Motard. But I don't have a frickin' garage to
    keep that in!)
     
    Timberwoof, May 21, 2006
    #46
  7. One of the motorcycle magazines did a test of helmets last year, in
    which they installed accelerometers in the head forms, then duplicated
    the impact tests of various standards.

    Would you believe that their tests indicated that plain DOT helmets
    were probably the safest. The padding deformation rate on DOT gave a
    smoother deceleration of the head form whereas Snell rated helmets would
    have stopped the skull almost immediately -- but left the brain to
    impact on the inside. IOWs, the Snell-rated helmets were pretty much
    guaranteed not to cause skull fractures, but concussion knock-out was
    possible; DOT, at the worst, might have a small skull fracture if the
    padding compressed completely, but the brain had a gentle ride.
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    Dennis Lee Bieber, May 21, 2006
    #47
  8. This is also true. But since I do medical transcription and have
    transcribed many a report of head injuries of people who did not
    adequately protect their heads, there is no way I would use one of those
    candy-dish pseudohelmets when I rode a moped or scooter -- I got a good
    helmet, albeit an open-face one. If I rode one on the freeway, I would
    get a full-face one, though.
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 21, 2006
    #48
  9. Are you suggesting that those who insist on riding without a helmet should
    first have to prove that their head can pass Snell 2005 certification?

    Or just DOT?
     
    EffJay R. Yamaha, May 21, 2006
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  10. Madhu

    Timberwoof Guest

    All they have to do for the DOT cert is claim to meet the standards. If
    they wanted the Snell cert, they'd run the risk of having their heads
    bashed in at random by those guys in Sacramento.
     
    Timberwoof, May 22, 2006
    #50
  11. Madhu

    Brian Guest


    Have any of you 'always wear a helmet' crowd ever ridden without one?

    Trail or street?

    It's a totally different sensation. I can see how guys that ride
    cruisers at legal speeds on highways can enjoy it.

    The last day I spent trail riding on a mates farm, was all done without
    any safety gear. No helmets, no gloves and gumboots for foot protection
    (thistles can be annoying in your feet), yet everyone had a ball and
    no-one got hurt......including the children.

    If you adjust your riding to suit the safety gear, all will be fine.

    To you 'doomsday what if'ers'....try thinking positive, good, happy
    thoughts instead of gloom and doom.
     
    Brian, May 22, 2006
    #51
  12. I consider it to be a in the same camp as seat belt and car seat laws
    for cars. Some people may consider it an inconvenience, and it probably
    is not needed at least 98% of the time, but for that 2%, it saves people
    from becoming severely disabled.
     
    Melinda Meahan - take out TRASH to send, May 22, 2006
    #52
  13. Madhu

    Timberwoof Guest


    Have any of you 'always wear a helmet' crowd ever ridden without one?

    Trail or street?

    It's a totally different sensation. I can see how guys that ride
    cruisers at legal speeds on highways can enjoy it.

    The last day I spent trail riding on a mates farm, was all done without
    any safety gear. No helmets, no gloves and gumboots for foot protection
    (thistles can be annoying in your feet), yet everyone had a ball and
    no-one got hurt......including the children.

    If you adjust your riding to suit the safety gear, all will be fine.

    To you 'doomsday what if'ers'....try thinking positive, good, happy
    thoughts instead of gloom and doom.[/QUOTE]

    I'd rather miss the wind in my hair than risk the wind in my brains.
     
    Timberwoof, May 22, 2006
    #53
  14. Madhu

    Timberwoof Guest

    Or severely dead.

    When I lived in Tennessee, there were ads on TV that ran like this: A
    Tennessee State Trooper with a grim look on his face would say, "These
    people died on Tennessee's highways last year. They were wearing seat
    belts." The camera tracks back to reveal four body bags on a highway.
    Then he says, "These people died on Tennessee's highways last year. They
    were not wearing seat belts." The camera tracks back even more to reveal
    dozens and dozens of body bags.
     
    Timberwoof, May 22, 2006
    #54
  15. Madhu

    Spender Guest

    This has to be flame bait in any cycling group.

    To each his own. If your head is worth so little to you, do as you will.
    It's nobody else's business.

    Helmets aren't the be all and end all either. You can scramble an egg with
    cracking the shell.
     
    Spender, May 22, 2006
    #55
  16. Madhu

    BobN Guest

    Or, as David Hough explained, a helmet does a good job of protecting the
    brain, but that won't help the rider much when the head separates from the
    body.
     
    BobN, May 22, 2006
    #56
  17. so in your world, "one nut job" == "a lot of people" ?

    bruce
     
    Bruce Hartweg, May 22, 2006
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  18. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Ah, yes. When I was a moto messenger, Pete Wilson had not yet signed the
    helmet law. The only time I wore one was when it was raining. I remember
    these blistering hot days, running north thru the valley, and stopping
    at gas stations to soak my head. Brief relief, but 10 minutes later my
    hair was dry again.

    Hair by Honda...ya can't beat it!

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 23, 2006
    #58
  19. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    LOL!!! That'd be a GREAT bumper sticker...if bikes had bumpers!

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 23, 2006
    #59
  20. Madhu

    barbz Guest

    Maybe it's your comprehension skills that are at fault?

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    Barb
    Chaplain, ARSCC



    "Comparing Scientology to a motorcycle gang is a gross, unpardonable
    insult to bikers everywhere. Even at our worst, we are never as bad as
    Scientology."
    -ex-member, Thunderclouds motorcycle "club"
     
    barbz, May 23, 2006
    #60
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