Call me a cynic, but....

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SteveH, Aug 10, 2006.

  1. SteveH

    BGN Guest

    And how much will they lose through not receiving £36 airport tax a
    seat by a passenger not travelling?
     
    BGN, Aug 11, 2006
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  2. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    That's making assumptions that people will choose not to fly for the
    reasons of hand luggage restrictions. We don't know what effect this
    will have, yet.

    I'm merely playing devil's advocate, doing some quick back of fag packet
    calculations, and have come to the conclusion that airside retail are
    making a killing from the current restrictions. It doesn't take much of
    an imagination to see that there may well be restrictions left in place
    that make the current short-term profiteering a long term situation.

    There's always someone who'll see an opportunity to take extra money
    from any situation.
     
    SteveH, Aug 11, 2006
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  3. SteveH

    Cab Guest

    *ding*

    All stuff that's booked in needs to be labelled. This stuff needs to be
    scanned at every stage from when it's checked in to when it goes onto
    the 'plane. So in a instant, their workload has significantly
    increased. This doesn't take into account the actually handling,
    scanning, etc, etc.

    As a matter of interest, I'm off to see the way it all works behind the
    scenes in Paris - CDG on Wednesday, as the AF baggage crews use my
    company's equipment.
     
    Cab, Aug 11, 2006
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  4. SteveH

    Ace Guest

    So, no surprises there then.

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    Ace, Aug 11, 2006
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  5. SteveH

    Cab Guest

    Yes it does. Don't look at it from the security checks whilst walking
    through to departures. You need to look at the extra workload that goes
    on behind the scenes for all booked in baggage.
     
    Cab, Aug 11, 2006
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  6. SteveH

    Cab Guest

    I think that's bollox. 'specially IME.
     
    Cab, Aug 11, 2006
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  7. SteveH

    Cab Guest

    I don't know what the percentages are for business travel compared to
    leisure travel, but in Europe I'd reckon it'd be pretty high. At the
    moment, 99% of my trips are business and I see mostly business
    travellers on my flights. Most of them are either carrying a PC OR a
    light travel case that will fit into the overhead bins.

    I reckon that the hold luggage is minimal in most cases.

    Oh and the fact that Air France have installed a load more electronic
    ticket points (mainly used by hand luggage travellers only), points to
    my assumption being correct.
     
    Cab, Aug 11, 2006
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  8. SteveH

    Switters Guest

    <waves> I won't fly long haul until they stop this nonsense. I'm still
    considering short flights.
     
    Switters, Aug 11, 2006
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  9. SteveH

    straggle Guest

    Question. Given that the airside shops aren't run by BAA, but by WH
    Smiths, Dixons etc just how will BAA make a "killing", bad choice of
    phrase notwithstanding?
     
    straggle, Aug 11, 2006
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  10. Just as ebay became flooded with confiscated knives after the previous
    ban, I foresee a glut of filched ipods on the market.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 11, 2006
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  11. SteveH

    Veggie Dave Guest

    BAA just increased the amount of hand luggage they allow on their
    flights. It's a good selling point.

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    Veggie Dave, Aug 11, 2006
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  12. SteveH

    Ace Guest

    Not sure if I'm missing a joke here or what. First, BAA don't do
    flights, they're the airport operator. Secondly, neither they, nor BA,
    have any changed guidlines on their websites.

    So what you on about?
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    Ace, Aug 11, 2006
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  13. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    Depends on the deal they have with the retailers, but I know some work
    on a fixed fee + percentage of turnover.
     
    SteveH, Aug 11, 2006
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  14. SteveH

    BGN Guest

    While you're there if you see an AF employee can you ask why they're
    being so fucking shit with their Business class seat rates from SCL
    via CDG to LHR?

    Ta.
     
    BGN, Aug 11, 2006
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  15. SteveH

    BGN Guest

    So you're not going to address it the valid points and examples? I'm
    pleased that you're admitted defeat.
    Yeah - My company deals with more than TEN passengers a year and 100%
    of those have a suitcase with them in addition to their hand baggage.
    One or two of those TEN people will even ask for more baggage lables
    so they can pre-address an extra suitcase.
     
    BGN, Aug 11, 2006
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  16. SteveH

    BGN Guest

    I'm not sure. IIRC BA, on some routes, will permit a piece of hand
    baggage up to 8Kg to be taken into the hold if you book their World
    Traveller Plus seats. WTP is their Long Haul premium economy product.
     
    BGN, Aug 11, 2006
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  17. SteveH

    SteveH Guest

    So I was right to assume that most people fly with hold luggage, then?
     
    SteveH, Aug 11, 2006
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  18. SteveH

    Cab Guest

    SCL?
     
    Cab, Aug 11, 2006
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  19. SteveH

    BGN Guest

    This is the problem: People going on holiday don't make up more than
    half of the people who travel on flights.

    Out of the last ten flights I've taken I only took a suitcase on one
    of them as most of them were quick visits to places to sort things out
    or troubleshoot abroad.

    People that fly from Heathrow to Glasgow at 8am and back to Heathrow
    at 6pm aren't likely to be checking anything in.
     
    BGN, Aug 11, 2006
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  20. SteveH

    BGN Guest

    Santiago. Little fuckers. I hate Air France. The only reason I had
    to move the flights from Lufthansa was because LH pulled the route.

    I had twenty business class seats on allocation which I was flogging
    for a grand a piece, I sold out of those and asked for six more which
    I sold for a grand each. I asked for six more and they said "Yes,
    have them: But we've shoved the price up by £150!" It's as if I'm
    being punished for selling their highest class seats.

    Don't worry about it: I'll sort the fuckers out next year.
     
    BGN, Aug 11, 2006
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