Calling the Tyre Pluggers!

Was it WUN that recently posted about getting a Z rated tyre repaired?
Anyway, i've got another rear puncture and can't find a local shop that will
plug it due to British Standard BS159F (1).

It's only got about 1k of life left so it probably is worth replacing
anyway. Especially with the 400 mile trip to the show and back coming up.

(1) No repairs allowed in any Z rated tyre.

Mark

 

Have you actually looked this up?

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I have, and while I can't find the exact text of the standard itself
(short of handing over £102 to BSI for a pdf) every single reference
I've found says that it only permits repairs to tyres up to V rating.
Any beyond that (eg. W, Z) cannot be repaired under the auspices of
BS159F:1997.

However, BS159F is only a standard, not a legal requirement. It's
certainly not illegal to plug a Z rated tyre, but I wouldn't be
surprised if some fitters declined to do so under the terms of their
public liability insurance.

That said, I've had Z rated tyres plugged in the past with no problems.
It's just a matter of finding a fitter who'll do it (Universal in
Staines certainly did, but probably not much use to the OP.)

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Mark

Yes it was. The repair cost forty quid mind, so for 1000 miles left in
the tyre it's probably not worth it.

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Basically the same findings from me. Not illegal to plug as no mention of
punctures made in construction and use regs. However, law would probably
favour BS approach for reasonableness if involved in an accident. Problem is
i've never heard of a failure in a plugged tyre and even if it did I would
think it would be just like getting another puncture.

Seems to me in these days of litigation for everything the decision by
companies is led by the fear of being sued rather than whether a plug would
actually work fine in a Z rated tyre (just I think it would).

Mark

 

Factor in that I had ridden it for 20 miles dashing between garages to keep
it inflated may also mean that I've damaged the internals. On looking at it
when I got home it looked like it had just finished a track day and was
pretty warm.

That's another £100 then.............

Mark

 

Although I can't find the actual BS wording an awful lot of info online
suggests the same. Anyway, the detail is rather academic really as I can't
find a dealer that will plug the tyre.

Mark

 

Mark pretended :

I seem to remember having seen DIY tyre plugging kits quite recently.

 

40 squids is bloody cheap, and in the realms of old Tossies mind, cheap
things are things you can do yourself. So, has anyone tried plugging
their own? Kit cost? Training?

Actually, just having googled it, the kits seem to be about 20 squids,
so anyone tried?

 

Plugs have never failed on any tyre I've plugged and that included Z rated.
Two (one BT-014 and one Conti Sport Attack) within the first 300 or so miles
of fitting them. That's using a "home repair" kit too and not backed up with
a tyre shop repair later.


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I tried taking the tyre off the rim without any equipment and it wouldn't
budge so the DIY approach would have to involve buying some equipment or a
real bodged approach.

Don't really fancy that on a 170 mph bike that tends to see three figures on
most outings.

Mark

 

Mark wrote :

You plug them from the outside with the tyre still on the wheel I
think. The old kits used a rubber bead, solution and an pointy hooked
implement. Fit the bead into the implement, dip it in the solution,
force it into the hole and cut off.

 

Correct. But I tried using one on my K the other day, and the bloody
plug tore to shreds every time I tried to force it through the hole, so
I wound up taking the wheel down to the tyre shop.

They used a plug, which they fitted from the inside, which obviously
meant taking the tyre off the rim. They said that for a pro (as opposed
to DIY) repair, this was now the law.

Cost £15 anyway, which wasn't bad. And thank Ged for BMW Monolever rear
wheels which are as quick and easy as a car wheel to remove, if not more
so.

 

See other posting.

 

Why shouldn't it work? That's the question. Surely the Z rating just
means the tyre is rated as safe at higher speeds, therefore as long as
you don't do Z speeds, it's just the same as a lesser tyre.

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Paul Carmichael formulated the question :

The tyre has to have a speed rating to match the vehicles maximum speed
capability, irrespective of a countries overall maximum limit. Any
repair has to be also suited to that same maximum speed of the vehicle.

 

Yes, years ago mind. Confucian approach and everything. Fucking shit
wouldn't do it a third time.

Eh?

 

Mark explained on 04/11/2007 :

http://www.bykebitz.co.uk/acatalog/Tyre_Products.html

£7.99 inc VAT - Inc. delivery £11.99

 

Where are you? If we knew that we might be able to recommend somewhere.

 

Yebbut you don't have to actually *do* the maximum speed of the
vehicle. If a repair is ok for up to certain speeds, then what
difference does it make what the tyre rating is?

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