[QUOTE] ogden took a blunt brush and painted... Not even to yourself, when you bought it?[/QUOTE] why would he? When I bought my (completely non-street-legal) RGV250 from Paul Charmichael I did so because he was asking (IIRC) £300 for it, and I had more than that in cash in my wallet at the time I saw his post. I've spent (way, way, way) more than that on a night out - what the fuck is there to justify? IMO, anything that costs less than around a grand is a medium-term disposable item[1]. [1] i.e. what do 4 x tyres for a 1/2 decent car cost, for example?