Can not start - Electric

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by NewBie, Sep 20, 2005.

  1. NewBie

    NewBie Guest

    Hi,

    My bike is not able to start using electric switch and I have to jump start
    since yesterday. When I pressed the starter button, it gave me
    "de..de...de.." sound.

    It happened before (~1 year ago) and the problem went away after I charged
    the battery (sealed type). With that experience, I charged the battery
    regulary (3 to 4 months interval)

    The latest date of charging the battery was on 29 Aug, could the problem
    come from the starter coil?

    Model of the bike: Suzuki Maruader GZ125.


    Thanks in advance for any pointer.
     
    NewBie, Sep 20, 2005
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  2. Sounds like the battery is, actually, dead. The noise is coming from the
    starter relay. It could be a defective relay - run a wire to bypass it
    and see if the starter motor turns.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Sep 20, 2005
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  3. (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    You can check for a dead battery by measuring its voltage while thumbing
    the starter.

    If it starts out at something 12 volt-ish and then plummets to a lot less
    (like 7 volts) when you hit the starter, the battery's toast.
     
    Michael J. Freeman, Sep 20, 2005
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  4. My understanding was that battery memory applied only to nicads,
    not to lead acid.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 20, 2005
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  5. NewBie

    Don Fearn Guest

    That's correct. Not only that, but the "memory effect" only applies to
    nicads under certain specific circumstances that rarely happen in
    regular use. Most often nicads die from overcharging, pure and simple.

    -Don
     
    Don Fearn, Sep 21, 2005
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  6. If I remember correctly, battery memory resulted from a
    repeating cycle of light discharges/recharges and was
    cured by a deep discharge/recharge.

    Solar and off-grid folks get very serious about their
    battery maintenance, and I used to occasionally browse
    Home Power and read some of this stuff.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Sep 21, 2005
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  7. NewBie

    Steve Guest

    Rob Kleinschmidt may have written:
    This is correct. Small metal hairs/fibers/dendrites form between the
    plates causeing tiny short circuits. A charge after a deep discharge
    would have enough current to burn out the short circuits. NiCad
    batteries are particularly prone to this problem, and early chargers
    were not very good. This caused some myth and folklore about these
    batteries which has carried over to other rechargeable batteries.

    Li-ion, NiMH, and lead acid batteries do not suffer from "memory." Lion
    has a short life. Li-ion and NiMH suffer from a fast charge and
    overheating. Lead acid suffers from a deep discharge.
     
    Steve, Sep 23, 2005
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