Car down , bike bent :-/

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Dr Zoidberg, Apr 9, 2004.

  1. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    But fortunately neither of the vehicles involved was mine , and nobody was
    hurt [1]

    Went out for a ride with a friend this morning as it was pleasant and sunny.
    We were heading out to meet his wife at a car boot sale as she had gone in
    the car , so we weren't in any great hurry. We were heading along the back
    road from Bewdley to Stourport which has some nice twisty bits and were
    taking it quite easy.
    I was leading as we came to a tight left hand bend on the crest of a hill
    and had slowed down to a civilised speed. I was about 30m ahead of my
    friend's ZZR1100 and suddenly found myself confronted by an old couple
    heading towards me in a SO Mitsubishi. I'd gone past the middle of the bend
    and was to the right of the centre of my lane [2] and this bloke was right
    up on the white lines and seemed to be heading over them as he went. I just
    lent over further and went past him when I heard a loud bike vs car
    interface. I really didn't want to check my mirror , expecting to see bits
    of bike and rider all over the road but somehow mark had managed to stay
    upright and pulled in behind me. The driver of the car also pulled up and
    happliy provided his details.

    It seems the that car had cut the (for him) right hand corner and had
    sideswiped my friend. The brake lever and footpeg seemed to have caught the
    front wing of the car and had snapped the whole assembly right off. The
    front edge of the exhaust can had taken a chunk out of the front wing as
    well , caught the leading edge of the door and folded the bottom right hand
    corner right back on itself , then bounced along the bottom of the rear door
    and peeled the whole of the outer skin apart for about 2 feet. It was an
    F-Reg car so thats a write off for sure.

    On the bike , the front lower fairing is a bit scuffed and the rear plastics
    above the exhaust are cracked and bent but all are probably fixable.
    The exhaust itself is beyond repair and had snapped off under the fairing at
    the bottom as well as twisting the bracket by the rear footrest but there
    seems to be no damage to the frame and the broken bits shouldn't be too hard
    to replace.

    I suspect that the insurance company will end up calling this one a 50/50. I
    was leading so although the car was right up on the line and seemed to be
    crossing it as he passed me I can't say for sure where they both were at the
    time of the accident. The car driver claimed that he was well on his own
    side , and mark said that his bike was in about the same position as me.
    Further to the right than he would have liked , but on his own side of the
    road. With no completely independent witnesses it would be impossible to
    prove either way

    The bent bike has been recovered now and my friend has been dropped off at
    A&E to have his foot looked at. It was caught 'tween car and bike and was
    causing some pain. Had either vehicle been 1ft further over then it would
    have been a head on collision with much less pleasant results.

    [1] Ok , possibly a broken toe , but that doesn't count.
    [2] Wider than I should have been , but still on my side of the road by some
    margin.
    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 9, 2004
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  2. Dr Zoidberg

    Nigel Eaton Guest

    Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Dr Zoidberg
    Yes, yes, yes very nice and all that.

    Can I have his inlet cam?
     
    Nigel Eaton, Apr 9, 2004
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  3. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Zoidberg"
    The old **** needs roasted. Sounds to me like he cut the corner.

    I'll give Mark fifty quid for his wreck, btw.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 9, 2004
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  4. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember Nigel Eaton
    Kewl. You take the cam, I'll have the rest.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 9, 2004
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  5. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Thats what it looks like to me , although proving it is very hard ,
    especially if he says that the bike ran wide.
    Hehehe , its been returned to his house now , and it looks like there isn't
    any extra hidden damage , so a new exhaust and footrest bracket will get it
    back on the road , and two replacement panels will have it looking mint.
    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 9, 2004
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  6. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    I suspect that he would like it to stay where it is. :0)
    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 9, 2004
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  7. It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
    drugs began to take hold. I remember "Dr Zoidberg"
    Not so bad news, then. Closer than a Mach III on a close day in August,
    that was.
    I suppose he'll have to purchase new kekks too.

    --

    Dave

    GS 850 x2 / SE 6a
    SbS#6 DIAABTCOD#16 APOSTLE#6 FUB#3
    FUB KotL OSOS#12? UKRMMA#19 COSOC#10
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Apr 9, 2004
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  8. Dr Zoidberg

    Nidge Guest

    snip
    snip

    THat's if they don't say it was bound to be your mates fault because he was
    on his bike.

    FORTUNATELY as you were looking in your mirror - being concerned already at
    the trajectory you had calculated the car would take - the fact you were
    able to witness that the car was slightly be cerpently over the line will
    save the day. *Won't it*.


    --
    Nidge
    ZX6R J2 Stunning in zit yellow. KX 125 MX 'I'm snot green -fly ME'. A few
    bits of CB500S in Norwegian Parrot blue. BOTAFOT#63

    'Just because I don't care doesn't mean I don't understand'.
    Homer (Simpson).
     
    Nidge, Apr 11, 2004
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  9. The message <c56kos$2orea7$-berlin.de>
    Wasn't there a pile of crud on the road off the underside of the car?
    Braking marks? There usually are.
     
    Jaques d'Alltrades, Apr 11, 2004
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  10. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Nope , you only tend to get that off the bumpers , and the only bits of the
    car that got hit were along the side.
    Again , no.

    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 11, 2004
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  11. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    *ahem*
    Of course.
    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.upce.org.uk
    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 14, 2004
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  12. Dr Zoidberg

    Zymurgy Guest

    Well, not that I know anything about the circumstances, but should I
    see a bike coming down the centreline oncoming, my first reaction
    would be to swerve away/move further out from it rather than ploughing
    on on the same track.

    Are you sure your mate wasn't further over the line than you were ?

    P.
     
    Zymurgy, Apr 15, 2004
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  13. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Nope , can't be sure.
    Hand on heart I suspect that they were both further to the right than they
    should have been , and had they both been in cars it would have just meant a
    pair of new wing mirrors.

    I'm just glad it wasn't more serious.


    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.upce.org.uk
    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 15, 2004
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  14. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    Well the old bloke driving the car has apparently told his insurers that we
    were both over the speed limit and on the wrong side of the road.
    In a way thats quite handy , as that version of events doesn't tally at all
    with the road and damage to both vehicles so he can be proved to be talking
    shite.
    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.upce.org.uk
    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 17, 2004
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  15. Dr Zoidberg

    Dr Zoidberg Guest

    In this case the road in question isn't very wide , and had we been well
    over the white line as he claimed we both would have been up over his
    bonnet.
    When I had an old git drive into me he claimed to have been stationary on
    the side road when I drove into him (sideways).
    Amusingly when asked about this by the police officer m one of his relatives
    who was in the car at the time piped up with "Thats not true , you drove
    into the bike"

    --
    Alex

    YZF 600

    "I laugh in the face of danger"

    "Then I hide until it goes away"

    www.upce.org.uk
    www.drzoidberg.co.uk
     
    Dr Zoidberg, Apr 17, 2004
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  16. The bloke who managed to reverse into a car I once owned said: "You were
    a bit bloody close, weren't you?"
     
    The Older Gentleman, Apr 17, 2004
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  17. The message <>
    I saw a slight shunt some years ago where a car ran lightly into the
    back of another, rolling it forward. The driver of the car in front
    applied the brakes before it ran into the one in front of him.

    A woman got out of that car, squawking that she'd hurt her neck because
    of the impact.

    "Get back in your car you lying cow," said the driver of the one vehicle
    to be dunted: "or when the Old Bill arrives I'll report you for
    attempted fraud!"
     
    Jaques d'Alltrades, Apr 17, 2004
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  18. Dr Zoidberg

    Muck Guest

    I reversed into a VW Polo in my Land Rover, and just said "Oops.". :)
     
    Muck, Apr 17, 2004
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  19. Or the woman who hit the back of my car (as part of a 5-car
    pile where I was no.4).. claimed that she had stopped in time and
    that I bounced back into her...

    The fact that the end result of her car, my car and the car
    in front all being as one didn't seem to change her mind.

    Phil

    --
    Phil Launchbury, Network & Infrastructure PHB
    Triumph Tiger 955i
    "I'm training the bats who live in my cubicle
    to juggle mushrooms"
    Remove sick person to email me
     
    Phil Launchbury, Apr 19, 2004
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  20. Dr Zoidberg

    Ace Guest

    Well obviously the car in front of you had also bounced back, and the
    one in front of him...
     
    Ace, Apr 19, 2004
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