CB200 - Seized swingarm bolt.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ian field, Aug 8, 2009.

  1. ian field

    ian field Guest

    Anyone know a clever trick to shift a seized swingarm bolt from a CB200?

    TIA.
     
    ian field, Aug 8, 2009
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  2. Penetrating fluid (not WD40), heat and a hammer 'n drift.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Aug 8, 2009
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    Beav Guest

    Heat and lots of it.


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    Beav, Aug 8, 2009
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  4. Angle Grinder and / or shaped C4 charges.
     
    Brownz \(Mobile\), Aug 8, 2009
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  5. ian field

    ian field Guest

    Probably!
     
    ian field, Aug 8, 2009
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  6. ian field

    ian field Guest

    Something tells me I'm not going to get away with not stripping the frame.
     
    ian field, Aug 8, 2009
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  7. ian field

    ian field Guest

    What kind of penetrating fluid? - I've got GT85 with PTFE.

    Someone else told me "getting it to turn is half the battle", problem is the
    bolt head on the end of the spindle is a bit shallow - not much to get hold
    of with a socket.
     
    ian field, Aug 8, 2009
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  8. Plusgas, heat, and a *big* metal bar welded to the end of it.

    Best of luck!
     
    Mungo \Two Sheds\ Toadfoot, Aug 8, 2009
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  9. If it's that badly seized you may have to do what I've done in the past
    which is hacksaw through the effing thing.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 8, 2009
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    Buzby Guest

    My FIL had a 24 ft sailing death trap that I used to look after the
    donkey on. Owing to salt water ingression there were always some
    stubborn bits to shift - this was the preferred gear
    http://www.twmotorinc.co.uk/vmchk/Car-Care/Rost-Off-Plus-300ml/flypage.t
    pl.html

    Definately not cheap, but it works.
     
    Buzby, Aug 8, 2009
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  11. ian field

    ian field Guest

    It crossed my mind to stick a socket on the spindle bolthead and aim a
    welding rod in through the 1/2 drive square hole, getting the bolt head red
    hot might do some good as well, but just for fun I might stick the socket on
    an impact driver first.
     
    ian field, Aug 8, 2009
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    If you use heat to free it off you need to use enough to make sure
    that the bores expand more than the spindle and that needs a *lot* of
    heat because as the metal expands it'll initially grow into the bore
    before the whole lot goes outwards.

    If it's got a grease nipple on the end of the swinging arm spindle
    force as much grease in as you can and then gently warm it so the
    grease flows out through the holes from the centre to the outside
    diameter of the spindle. When you think you've got enough through you
    then need to do it all again, let it cool down and batter the fucker
    with a big hammer and a drift until it moves. Anything else involving
    heat will end with a full strip down and possibly damaging the frame
    and swinging arm. Make sure you use a copper drift or you might swage
    the end of the shaft out so badly it'll never move.

    Your other option is to source a cheap second hand swinging arm and
    use an angle grinder to cut it off.

    Why are you trying to remove it?
     
    Andy Bonwick, Aug 8, 2009
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  13. Seriously, avoid the fucking around and just cut it out. It's scrap
    anyway.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2009
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  14. ian field

    ian field Guest

    As far as I'm concerned the swingarm is scrap anyway, its rusted through on
    the bracing box, there's a replacement sitting on the bench all nicely
    brushed up with Hammerite and new bushes.

    Before I get too eager and destroy the old swingarm it will be easier to
    handle for a stripdown with both wheels in it.
     
    ian field, Aug 9, 2009
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  15. ian field

    ian field Guest

    The swing arm certainly is and I'm sure I could get another bolt, but I'd
    prefer not to have to scrap the frame because there's a bolt seized in the
    middle section with nothing left to get hold of.
     
    ian field, Aug 9, 2009
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  16. You don't have to, YTC.

    You cut through the pivot bolt on either side of the swinging arm. You
    need one of those one-handed hacksaws with a stiff blade that sticks
    out, and a lot of patience. Then it just falls out. You've got another
    swinging arm anyway.

    Or, even better, just angle grind through the swinging arm and the pivot
    together.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Aug 9, 2009
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    Pip Guest

    Padsaw. They do a nice - and very handy - air-powered variety these
    days.
    That's better.
     
    Pip, Aug 9, 2009
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    zymurgy Guest

    Don't faff about, just cut it out.

    If it's the same length / width as a CB250N s/arm spindle, I have a
    couple of spares,

    Cheers,

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Aug 10, 2009
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    TOG@Toil Guest

    Only a couple???
     
    TOG@Toil, Aug 10, 2009
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  20. ian field

    zymurgy Guest

    "Several" :)

    Paul.
     
    zymurgy, Aug 10, 2009
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