CBX550 air filter drain plug.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by ian field, Oct 21, 2009.

  1. ian field

    ian field Guest

    Apparently the crankcase breather is plumbed into the filter box and has a
    sort of plastic sump bottle to catch any emulsion etc blown out of the
    breather.

    I've been told that this needs to be drained occasionally otherwise the
    filter cartridge gets oiled and ruined.

    As I intend to replace the filter fairly soon, I looked it up in the Haynes
    manual and went outside to remove the drain plug as instructed -
    unfortunately, on finding the pipe in question, I discovered that said plug
    is missing.

    Is it important? - What are the pro's & cons of leaving it as is/ finding
    something to replace the plug?

    TIA.
     
    ian field, Oct 21, 2009
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    Dave Emerson Guest

    Find "something" to plug the hole with, even if it's only duck/gaffer tape.
    Otherwise the engine will be sucking air thru the hole, by-passing the
    filter and can ingest all sorts of muck.

    If the engine's done a high mileage, it would be a good idea to replace the
    existing pipe with a length of (heater) hose running from the engine to the
    back of the bike; e.g. a small hole drilled at the back of the mudguard for
    a tie-wrap keeps it neat behind the numberplate. Don't forget to then
    block-off the stub where the pipe would normally connect to the airbox.

    This mod lets the engine run on clean air instead of it's own farts.
     
    Dave Emerson, Oct 21, 2009
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    ian field Guest

    Thanks.
     
    ian field, Oct 21, 2009
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  4. ian field

    ian field Guest

    If its bleeding air after the filter it might account for reluctant starting
    in the cold, the bike has a plunger jet choke instead of a flap choke -
    whatever difference that makes.

    Looking at the spark plug colour I'd say it was running slightly lean, but
    as I stick to speed limits and rarely use motorways, fixing it hasn't been a
    priority.
     
    ian field, Oct 22, 2009
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  5. ian field

    ian field Guest

    A four has 2 up & 2 down - I'd expect the pressure to cancel out, as its 27
    years old I'd expect some pressure due to blow-by.

    But the breather is
    Free upper cylinder lube?

    I don't think it's anything to do with
    The breather on a CB200 is just a pipe that hangs down behind the lump, with
    2 pistons going up and down together the crank case alternately sucks &
    blows, I'd always assumed that condensed oil mist on the inside of the pipe
    made it sticky and trapped any grit that got sucked in.
    Its a pretty old bike so I'm not looking to increase performance in case I
    finish it off.

    If the air bleed is saving me petrol I might leave it as is, as for the risk
    of sucking in crap and causing damage I've only just found out the plug was
    missing, so it probably wasn't there when I bought it a few years ago and
    who knows how long before that - pretty much a case of shutting the gate
    after the horse has bolted.

    If it improves cold starting I'm likely to fit a plug, I've no plans to
    modify the system.

    Thanks all for the advice.
     
    ian field, Oct 22, 2009
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    Alex Ferrier Guest

    Er, as I understand it. Crankcase pressure is as the result of
    'blow by'. Which you get quite a bit of until the rings have
    seated properly.
     
    Alex Ferrier, Oct 22, 2009
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    'Hog Guest

    Hence high performance race engines run the CC under vacuum.
     
    'Hog, Oct 22, 2009
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  8. On a nicely warmed up engine with above mod, it is quite amusing to see
    the puffs of steam exiting the end of the bike.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Oct 27, 2009
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