Centre stand: how strong is it?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Rudy Lacchin, Mar 16, 2008.

  1. Rudy Lacchin

    Rudy Lacchin Guest

    I've just read this:-

    "Never sit on the bike to move it off its central stand. The stand is not
    designed to take the combined weight of you and the machine." (The Police
    Rider's Handbook to Better Motorcycling, p.123.)

    I've always done this.

    Show of hands?
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    R.
     
    Rudy Lacchin, Mar 16, 2008
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    davethedave Guest


    I always thought the centre stand was designed for being able to sit on
    the bike in the motorway services with your feet on the bars whilst
    drinking coffee.
     
    davethedave, Mar 16, 2008
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    crn Guest

    It depends on the bike.
    For example the LE stand is probably better descriped as a pair of
    propstands so it just rolls off with no effort. The GS OTOH has a
    centre stand that lifts the rear wheel more than an inch. A pig to
    get it up and probably daft to try to ride it off. Too much like
    hard work, I use the propstand.
     
    crn, Mar 16, 2008
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  4. *Waves*

    Must have been drafted by a Plod with an addiction to doughnuts.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Mar 16, 2008
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  5. Rudy Lacchin

    des Guest

    I did this with every bike I owned.

    D.
     
    des, Mar 16, 2008
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    Beav Guest

    Me too if the bike has/had a centre stand.


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    Beav, Mar 16, 2008
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    Molly Guest

    Official Line:
    The Centre Stand is designed to take the weight of the bike and not the bike
    and rider.. This is why you see a lot of centre stands a bit bent.

    I've done it.
     
    Molly, Mar 16, 2008
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    YTC#1 Guest

    Utter bollocks
    Always

    The shippers did bend the XJR side stand by strapping it down tight.

    But think of every time you take a ferry and you strap down on the side
    stand? That would be as bad or worse than sitting on it.
     
    YTC#1, Mar 16, 2008
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    platypus Guest

    I could get the R80RT onto the stand without getting out of the saddle. I
    couldn't get the Trophy off the stand without sitting in the saddle and
    shagging it off.
     
    platypus, Mar 16, 2008
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    MikeH Guest

    I've never done it because I was told not to when I started biking.

    Funny really, because (in common with most people) normally being told
    not to do something has the exact opposite effect on me.

    When I was instructing I did see quite a few hand-me-down scooters and
    100/125s where both wheels but only one leg of the centrestand touched
    the ground because various owners had sat on them.
    The stands on bigger bikes do seem to be made of stronger stuff though.
     
    MikeH, Mar 16, 2008
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  11. Rudy Lacchin

    YTC#1 Guest

    side=main here
     
    YTC#1, Mar 16, 2008
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    JP Guest

    Depends on the bike - but imho not generally a good idea in general.
    Was instructing CBTs when of the pivot lugs snapped on a scooter when a
    lad sat on it - which was unfortunate as the lug was a cast part of the
    engine. Cant think what make it was though. Any ideas?
     
    JP, Mar 16, 2008
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    David Toft Guest

    When we made them, we designed them so that a "lardy arsed tart" would
    not bend them when the bike was sat on. We used one of the welders who
    weighed about 16-18 stone. The other test we did was to drag the bike
    backwards while on the stand, like they do in the shops when they are
    moving them around in tight spaces.
     
    David Toft, Mar 17, 2008
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  14. I don't understand this. When you are rolling the bike off the
    centrestand you don't have your weight on the bike, do you? You have
    your feet on the floor to push against it. Surely it's only as the bike
    rolls off the stand that you actually sit on the seat?

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    Paul Carmichael, Mar 17, 2008
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    darsy Guest

    *ding*

    just about every[1] bike I've owned with a centre stand, there's no
    way I could get it off the stand without sitting on the thing and
    "shagging it off" as you so delicately put it.

    [1] the only exception I can think of is the R65LS, which is so low to
    the ground even I can push it off the centre stand whilst stood along
    side it.
     
    darsy, Mar 17, 2008
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    CT Guest

    Eh? Surely one just grabs the bar and a part of the rear subframe (or
    whereever it is on the rear of the bike that one uses to get it on the
    stand) and reverses the procedure?
     
    CT, Mar 17, 2008
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    Pip Guest

    Feet on the floor? Nope. Feet on the footrests, rock back and forth
    a bit ("shagging") and as the rear tyre hits the deck, drop the clutch
    with a bit of throttle. Looks cool, can hurt the nuts.
     
    Pip, Mar 17, 2008
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  18. Rudy Lacchin

    darsy Guest

    the bikes I'm thinking off are an R1150GS and my current Tiger 955i -
    both are heavy and tall, and for a short arse like myself, taking them
    off the centre stand whilst not on the seat is a daunting task, likely
    to end up in dropping the bike on it's right hand side.
     
    darsy, Mar 17, 2008
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    M J Carley Guest

    So sitting on my 300kg Pan is enough to cause issues for the stand,
    but a full load of luggage isn't?
     
    M J Carley, Mar 17, 2008
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  20. Rudy Lacchin

    ottguit Guest

    on the seat?
    Yup, my technique as well, sometimes with a Pillion!
    Bg
     
    ottguit, Mar 17, 2008
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