Chain riveting..

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Spike, Feb 21, 2006.

  1. Spike

    Spike Guest

    OK, so have nice new shiny DID 530ZVM2 Chain sitting here, ready to go on
    bike with pair of nice new sprockets.

    Now, never having chnaged a chain before, is it necessary to spring for a
    rivetting tool?.. Or does one use a hammer and punch? Or is that just too
    much hassle for the 50 quid a tool would cost?..

    Advice please people!
     
    Spike, Feb 21, 2006
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  2. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Spike
    Hammer, punch and a delicate touch is all that's required. You just want
    to disrupt the rivet head enough to keep it in place, without "freezing"
    the link, or destroying the 'O' ring.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Feb 21, 2006
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  3. Spike

    TOG Guest

    A hacksaw will chop through the old chain in a couple of minutes, and
    then just attach the new to the old and roll it on.

    For riveting it up, yes, hammer and punch, used carefully, will do.
    I've also used a G-clamp, tightened up on the soft ends of the joining
    pins.

    If you use a hammer and punch, remember to support the other side of
    the chain with something large and solid.

    If you bugger the joining link entirely, you can always use a modern
    spring link. seriously. The pins are tapered, and you force the
    sideplate on (using a G-clamp again!) against the taper. Properly done,
    it ain't ever going to come adrift even if the spring clip does fall
    off.
     
    TOG, Feb 21, 2006
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  4. Huh, coincidence, I've been looking at rivetting tools today. Then I
    realised they only go up to 530 and the chain I'm planning on fitting is
    going to be a 630 :-( I'll probably pay a man to do it.
     
    mike. buckley, Feb 21, 2006
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  5. Spike

    'Hog Guest

    630? are you sure about this
     
    'Hog, Feb 21, 2006
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  6. Spike

    'Hog Guest

    IMHO a good make/break chain tool is a lifetime investment and worth
    every penny for convenience and peace of mind.
     
    'Hog, Feb 21, 2006
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  7. Spike

    JB Guest

    Not on an 350LC that's for sure. 70/80s GS1000/Z1000? Can't think of any
    recent bikes with 630. Bastard heavy and expensive too.

    JB
     
    JB, Feb 21, 2006
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  8. Spike

    Spike Guest

    OK youve persuaded me, inasmuch as Im a hamfisted **** and dont trust myself
    not to knacker something whilst wielding hammers..

    Are the 50 quid jobbies any good?... or do I really have to soend over a
    hundred notes on a DID one?....
     
    Spike, Feb 21, 2006
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  9. Spike

    Eddie Guest

    AndrewR and I bought a 60-ish quid one (between us, in a fit of
    pikey-ness), and it's survived removing and fitting quite a few chains,
    including some where one of the two of us didn't grind the head off the
    chain rivet before he used the tool to pop it out[0]. Seems to be
    surviving so far, and it's a damn sight easier than pissing about with
    hammers and stuff.

    YMMV, no warranty is expressed or implied, &c., &c.

    [0] No names, but guess which one of us doesn't have an angle grinder,
    the weirdo.
     
    Eddie, Feb 21, 2006
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  10. Spike

    Lozzo Guest

    Eddie said...
    2lb ball pein hammer, a parallel pin punch, an old cats-eye found at the
    side of the road and a 10 quid angle grinder is about all that I use to
    remove and fit chains.
     
    Lozzo, Feb 21, 2006
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  11. You're right. I've got one, had it for years, and it is, as you say,
    worth every penny for the convenience.

    It's like any decent tool: you might wince at the cost, but once you've
    got it, you have it for life.

    Some of my decent tools are decades old.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 21, 2006
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  12. Spike

    Eddie Guest

    Been there, done that (except I wasn't so posh as to have an old cat's
    eye). Having the proper tool makes life much easier.
     
    Eddie, Feb 21, 2006
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  13. Not far off. GPZ Turbos use a 630, although a lot of people go for a 530
    conversion for exactly the reasons mentioned above.

    I think the RDs all use 530.
     
    mike. buckley, Feb 22, 2006
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  14. Spike

    MikeH Guest

    I reckon I'd be OK with a cheap one, myself.
     
    MikeH, Feb 22, 2006
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  15. Spike

    'Hog Guest

    This £50 Motrax one seems just fine. I'm careful with it and grind the
    rivet heads off the old chain although it will push them out anyway.

    Just watch out when you buy new chain. Make sure they have the hollow
    point soft link. The solid end type, which need to be peened over,
    require the more expensive chain tool or it's back to the ball pein
    hammer.
     
    'Hog, Feb 22, 2006
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