Chains.. adjustment thereof

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by dwb, Jan 24, 2004.

  1. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Having discovered that I have the alignment abilities of the Home Secretary
    [1], I am somewhat perturbed at the idea of having to adjust the chain on my
    bike.

    Unfortunately it's got rather too much slack in it now and does need to be
    done[2]. I still haven't understood how the 'plank system' works - so if
    anyone's got any good ideas on checking you've got wheel the alignment right
    without using two planks, or the swing arm markers (as they seem as accurate
    as Sir.Tony) I would appreciate it.

    I was possibly considering buying a very cheap laser type light from the B&Q
    and trying that....


    [1] This has been what has been causing the o-rings to fall out of my
    chains.
    [2] any more and it'll be moveable up to the swing arm in the bit that
    doesn't have the plastic guard... :-|
     
    dwb, Jan 24, 2004
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  2. dwb

    Oldbloke Guest

    dwb wrote:
    I know bugger all about aligning wheels, but do have a hand held Leica laser
    distance meter, and access to a laser level if that's any help.

    --
    Oldbloke

    My Bike - 2000 Honda CB500
    M'boy's Bike - 1990 Suzuki TS50X
    i Bike - MotoRumi Junior Gentleman

    BOTAFOT #140, DIAABTCOD#26
    "He's like Robbo's chubby kid brother"
     
    Oldbloke, Jan 24, 2004
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    spida Guest

    I've relied on the swing arm markers for wheel alignment when doing
    the gixxer and haven't noticed any particular problems with
    handling/tyre wear between the times when I've adjusted the chain and
    the chain's been adjusted by the garage after a service.

    It would be interesting to know how far out it would have to be to
    notice any difference. I guess the real danger would be if the
    sprockets were badly out of alignment.

    Disclaimer: This is not advice.
     
    spida, Jan 24, 2004
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  4. spida wrote
    of wheel alignment:

    I too would like an answer to this one. It is obviously not *that*
    important if it is a little out and presumably at some point of
    maladjustment it has to be a real issue but the gap between the two
    seems to be a complete unknown.
     
    steve auvache, Jan 24, 2004
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  5. dwb

    Ginge Guest

    Assuming it's already in line..

    Measure the distance between tyre edge and swingarm on the left hand
    side..

    Measure the distance between tyre edge and swingarm on the right hand
    side..

    Move the wheel back.

    Check the distances are the similar to the ones you started with.

    FWIW I doubt the swingarm marks will be out my much at all

    OR................

    Just make a pencil mark 2mm behind where the bolts are now, on both
    sides of the swingarm and move the wheel back that far.

    HTH.
     
    Ginge, Jan 24, 2004
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  6. dwb

    Sean Guest

    dwb let forth with a mighty belch and uttered :

    Bought a gizmo from MPS years ago that clamps over the rear sprocket and
    provides a rod that lies over the top of the chain[1] so you can see when
    it is in alignment.

    Not cheap, but makes setting up the alignment an absolute doddle. One of
    those 'how did I do without that for so long' type tools.

    Using it, I found the alignment marks on the 600f were about as useful for
    setting up as the pock marks in the paint finish. They were about a notch
    out.

    HTH

    [1]Not a fantastic description.
     
    Sean, Jan 24, 2004
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  7. dwb

    deadmail Guest

    Two straight(ish) lengths of wood longer than the bike's wheelbase. Lie
    one parallel to each side of the rear wheel (touching the tyre). Check
    the front wheel is approximately central. If not, adjust er.. adjusters
    until it is.

    Job done.

    Swingarm marks *can* be out IMO (of shite old bikes). Well, maybe the
    marks are in the right place but the rest of it is fucked...
     
    deadmail, Jan 24, 2004
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  8. dwb

    jsp Guest

    On the few times I've done the job, I just made sure I gave exactly the
    same amount of turn to each tensioning nut.

    --
    John

    SV650
    Black it is
    and naked
     
    jsp, Jan 24, 2004
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  9. dwb

    Pip Guest

    [chain adjusting[
    Aye, that's the one. Assuming it is already in line, just count the
    flats.
     
    Pip, Jan 24, 2004
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  10. wrote:




    That's the best answer so far.
    Just a couple of points:

    You shouldn't use an intransitive verb with an object.

    It helps if you have a pal to hold the bars so that
    the front wheel is parallel to your sticks.

    Don't try it on a Trident with offset rear wheel.
     
    Old Fart at Play, Jan 24, 2004
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  11. dwb

    sweller Guest

    On machines that I know have equal length swinging arm arms, I use a
    calliper gauge to measure from the swing arm end to the centre of the
    axle. Adjust until they're both the same.
     
    sweller, Jan 24, 2004
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  12. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Ta - might need it :)
     
    dwb, Jan 24, 2004
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  13. dwb

    dwb Guest

    F*ck knows, but I do know I've had the o-rings fall out of two chains, one
    on the SV, one on the GSX-R - either due to alignment or possibly
    over tension - but then it's "to the manual" but that possibly means bugger
    all...
     
    dwb, Jan 24, 2004
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  14. dwb

    dwb Guest

    Ta to all .
     
    dwb, Jan 24, 2004
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    spida Guest

    Still on the original chain after 13000 miles using the 'ah **** it
    that'll do' method.
     
    spida, Jan 25, 2004
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