Changing Tyres from a 60 to A 70

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by yubs, Sep 18, 2004.

  1. yubs

    yubs Guest

    Hi all

    Just a quick question. Just updated my bike with new Tyres. Went from a
    60 to a 70. Should I drop my forks by 10 mm?
     
    yubs, Sep 18, 2004
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    Dale Porter Guest

    I once put a 70 profile tyre on the front of the CBR600 I had, and it made it very stable through
    sweepers. Made it a little bit harder to tip into corners, but the difference was minimal, and I
    quickly got used to it. I didn't bother with changing the fork height or suspension settings either.
     
    Dale Porter, Sep 18, 2004
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    Johnnie5 Guest

    would that be profile going from a 60 to a 70 ?

    have you ridden it ???

    why did you change the profile ???
     
    Johnnie5, Sep 18, 2004
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    yubs Guest

    Yes its seems ok, havn't leant it right over yet since still a little
    green. I've read somewhere that it can change the handling of the bike and
    was just wondering if this could be bad.
    Didn't mean too, store just chucked them on, didn't realise until I got
    home. Guess its my fault anyway because I didn't specify. I just said
    "chuck some Dunlop 208 on her thanks" as they had a sale them ($385
    installed) and I was blinded by the figure thinking hmm thats 1/2 a track
    day price I have just saved and, hmm you know $100 could buy a nice set of
    gloves ;-P.
     
    yubs, Sep 18, 2004
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    rossco Guest

    I raised the forks through the clamps by 10mm when i went from a sixty to a
    70
    on my r6 and yes it makes a massive difference.

    Handles so sweet now.
     
    rossco, Sep 18, 2004
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  6. I went from a 60 profile to a 70 profile (free front tyre!) on my 1999
    R6 and it turned into a tankslapping monster. I guess the weight was
    shifted slightly back and the sharper profile didn't help.. nearly
    ended up in the water on the way to Wiseman's Ferry one day. But you
    didn't say what bike, and R6's are pretty knife-edge at the best of
    times.

    It'd only be 5mm anyway, not 10mm.

    Agg
     
    James Rolfe (Agg - OCAU), Sep 18, 2004
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    John Littler Guest

    R6 I assume ?

    Depends on how you ride it, if you ride like grandma don't worry about it !

    By increasing the size of the tyre you've increased the rake a touch.
    Dropping the rake by pushing the forks up through the triple clamp will
    compensate for the change of geometry, as will raising the ride height.

    Recognise that the "60" and "70" are percentages not mm and that's being
    translated through an angle at the steering head (24.5degrees from
    memory), so you can't simply say "move it 10mm to compensate" I'm sure
    you could work it out precisely with trigonometry but I'm not about to
    do so for you :)

    Having pointed out that your conclusion to move 10mm seems to be based
    on an incorrect assumption, it is actually about what I'd move it
    initially :) Trial and error to get the right setup unless you know
    someone who's raced one (try googling it might be on the 'net somewhere)
    as I believe most of the racers use a 70 profile slick on the R6 instead
    of the /60s as they're not available (where's Daron ?)

    JL
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    John Littler, Sep 18, 2004
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    Fwoar Guest

    I'm here

    R6's don't run slicks here or anywhere else in the world unless club racing.

    You are correct in the 10% increase of width of the tyre. But it doesn't
    equate to 10mm by a long shot.

    There are many different ways to get around the "new" tyre is going to cause
    drama syndrome. As has said before - it all depends on the rider, the types
    of riding & the previous setup of the machine.

    Pushing the forks through may work for some but others may want to drop them
    through a couple more mm as they prefer the new setup.

    change the tyre, ride it.. Push the forks through, ride it, drop the forks -
    ride it..

    Is the tyre the same compound & construction? Maybe a few clicks here &
    there to adjust to the harder(or softer) sidewall. Bridgestones tend to have
    a harder sidewall than Michelins but that mainly depends on the compound of
    the tyre.

    Basically - if what works for one rider, _may_ work for another. Thats why
    motorcycles are such a personalised machine.
     
    Fwoar, Sep 18, 2004
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    Fwoar Guest

    ooops

    Forgot about the new Formula Xtreme Class in the USA.
    They run slicks
     
    Fwoar, Sep 18, 2004
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    phil Guest

    Just a thought...be carefull if you stack it & the insurance dood knows
    enough to look at the tyre. They love a non spec bike to get out of a claim.
     
    phil, Sep 18, 2004
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    Conehead Guest

    Do you still have sufficient clearance between your tyre and mudguard? [1]

    --
    Conehead
    [1] Put a 70 instead of a 60 on a ZZR600 then rode it on a clay road in the
    wet. It was the very epitome of shitfulness.

    Forks?! Fark.
     
    Conehead, Sep 18, 2004
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    yubs Guest

    Well I don't hear scrapping so I guess thats a good start. I think it will
    be fine unless I go through mud :)
     
    yubs, Sep 18, 2004
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    rossco Guest

    What bike is this for?

     
    rossco, Sep 18, 2004
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    yubs Guest

    Yamaha 03 R6


     
    yubs, Sep 18, 2004
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    rossco Guest

    Change your fork hight for sure
    6-10 mm

    Check this site out for info on r6s

    http://r6messagenet.com/forums/

     
    rossco, Sep 18, 2004
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  16. High speeds will make the tyre taller, possibly rubbing on the guard..
    another issue I had on my R6 when playing with various tyres.

     
    James Rolfe (Agg - OCAU), Sep 18, 2004
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    yubs Guest

    Well all I have just changed the forks height by 8 mm. I must say the
    change in handling was very noticable. Seems that bike has alot more
    confidence about it and is more happy to lean. Bike hasn't felt this good
    since the original set of tyres. I am sure this was what was causing the
    falling feel I had with the last set of tyres I had when lent over, I bet
    they where 70s as well. Oh well. I'm off to a track day tommorow and will
    tell you how it goes. May have to continue playing to get it 100% right
     
    yubs, Sep 19, 2004
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  18. Shit!
    That tyre's *huge*!
    My postie bike only runs a 2.75 at each end...

    Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Sep 20, 2004
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Upgraded the front from the 2.50 eh Pat.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Sep 21, 2004
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  20. Standard size---but BTH's CT90 has "2 3/4" size tyres...

    Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Sep 21, 2004
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