Chaytor jailed for 18 months

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by stephen.packer, Jan 7, 2011.

  1. Fwir, a surprisingly high percentage of them were volunteers. Not too
    shabby a deal on paper - work a bit for the Man to pay for the passage,
    get a 100 acres free and carry on as a farmer. For many of the skilled
    and displaced unemployed farm workers it must have seemed very tempting.
    Problem was, the land was shit, the natives didn't like it and nothing
    would grow. Took them ages to get it together and there were a couple of
    periods where the whole venture looked like being abandoned.

    I don't know whether Aussies tracing their roots are pleased or
    disappointed to discover that ggggggggg Uncle Archie was a villain or a
    worker.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 10, 2011
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  2. stephen.packer

    Hog Guest

    Yeahbut the natives were few and far between and easily dealt with
     
    Hog, Jan 10, 2011
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    des Guest

    <fx: reaches for stopwatch...>
     
    des, Jan 10, 2011
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    Charlie Guest

    It frequently gets mentioned here, but I just didn't get on with it when
    it was published. Perhaps I'll try again.
     
    Charlie, Jan 10, 2011
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  5. stephen.packer

    Charlie Guest

    Hmm, not so sure about that aspect, although there were many cases where
    the SO would volunteer rather than break up the family.
     
    Charlie, Jan 10, 2011
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    des Guest

    The trend has historically been the reverse.
    <http://www.capitalpunishmentuk.org/hanging1.html>
     
    des, Jan 10, 2011
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  7. No it was introduced as a cheap means of clearing and securing the land
    for large scale farming and industrial enterprise which even to this day
    is based on the principle of my bollox are bigger than yours because my
    ancestors razed more acres than yours did. I am sure if you look on the
    title deeds of all the huge estates down under it will read like a roll
    call for the house of lords.


    ..
     
    steve auvache, Jan 10, 2011
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    des Guest

    It's my understanding that transportation was a seventeenth-century
    phenomenon. The Age of Englightenment is generally considered to have
    begun around the eighteenth century, with the American and French
    revolutions.

    --
    des
    'Sex without love is an empty experience. But as empty experiences go,
    it's one of the best'
    (Woody Allen)
    <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
     
    des, Jan 10, 2011
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    Beav Guest

    Yep, but you don't really think he'll do the standard rate shirley?

    If not 4 months, 5 at the most.
     
    Beav, Jan 10, 2011
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  10. stephen.packer

    Beav Guest

    So in Desneyland I can tunnel into a bank and empty it of all its contents
    and walk around free coz it wasn't violent.

    Get the **** out of here!
    Of course you are.
     
    Beav, Jan 10, 2011
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    Jérémy Guest

    All the absolutely worst offences are personally "non-violent", including
    organising genocide and starting illegal wars. Or have I misunderstood you?

    (> But then, when it comes to humanism and societal progress, I'm about
    This is a parody of self-parody, isn't it?)
     
    Jérémy, Jan 10, 2011
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    Pip Luscher Guest

    No, I don't think so. Well, not *complete* baloney. There is a real
    risk of fuelling a "them and us" attitude among the, err, sort of
    person I could so easily have been. At least now I wait and see what
    counter arguments there may be.

    Our version of democracy ain't perfect but it could be a whole lot
    worse, especially if it collapses under a drift of cynicism, distrust
    and inertia.
     
    Pip Luscher, Jan 10, 2011
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    boots Guest

    If I understood this case it was all defaults. Pretty much the
    equivalent of leaving the door open with the key in the lock.
     
    boots, Jan 10, 2011
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    des Guest

    Well, that took longer than I'd anticipated...

    You really want to get into it? Only I'm sort of sensitive to the sight of
    blood...

    --
    des
    'If the Arabs laid down their weapons today there would be no more
    violence. If the Jews laid down their weapons today, there would be no
    more Israel ...'
    <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
     
    des, Jan 10, 2011
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  15. stephen.packer

    des Guest

    Ideally, yes.
    Yes, I am. Your children and grandchildren (and probably their
    grandchildren etc...) will be dead and buried, but the day will come when
    people will look on imprisonment the same way we now look on slavery: with
    horror.

    That I see further than any of you isn't (or shouldn't be) a surprise to
    anyone anymore.

    --
    des
    'Half of the American people have never read a newspaper. Half never
    voted for President. One hopes it is the same half'
    (Gore Vidal (1925 - ))
    <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
     
    des, Jan 10, 2011
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  16. stephen.packer

    des Guest

    It has always been 'the British way': give a little, and shut the plebs up.

    These trials and convictions have very little to do with 'justice needs to
    be seen to be done' and a lot to do with banging up a few folk so that the
    furore around the expenses scandal will die down, and the Establishment can
    get back to doing what it does best: fucking you all up the back passage.
    Your 'version of democracy' is going to collapse, anyway - built as it is
    on the iniquitous and fundamentally evil system that is capitalism.

    --
    des
    'If all the girls who attended the Yale prom were laid end to end, I
    wouldn't be a bit surprised'
    (Dorothy Parker (1893 - 1967))
    <http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>
     
    des, Jan 10, 2011
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  17. Yes and they keep giving and they keep giving and they never learn and so
    they never stop and so they still have to keep on giving and giving and
    little by little it all changes hands until they have nothing left to give
    and we have all the bullets and then the bloodletting can begin.
     
    steve auvache, Jan 11, 2011
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  18. stephen.packer

    AW Guest

    On Jan 10, 5:20 pm, des wrote



    O see the grasp on world history remains tenuous.
     
    AW, Jan 11, 2011
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    Jérémy Guest

    It's probably a thread this newsgroup could do without, and I don't
    really have time. I'm happy to agree to differ (or to agree, if
    necessary, since I'm still not sure I understood you correctly).
     
    Jérémy, Jan 11, 2011
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    Ace Guest

    I always thought that most of them, once their sentence was served,
    chose to stay there.
     
    Ace, Jan 11, 2011
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