Chaytor jailed for 18 months

Eric Illsley has now.

 

I think you're on the button there, it is just the means of cutting the
served sentence that is questionable. Yeah, 4 or 5 months in a Jeffrey
Archer style open prison to write a book or two, then released, perhaps
with a tag, to go his own way.

 

IWT the price of the ticket home would be beyond them.

 

Cor, and then some. I think there was limited transportation to the
Americas in the seventeenth century, but where Oz is concerned it didn't
start until the late eighteenth century. Again, The Fatal Shore is
required reading.

 

Tum tee-tum .. .

'Transportation punished both major and petty crimes in Great Britain
and Ireland from the 17th ...'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Penal_transportation>

Tra la-la ...

'Developing simultaneously in France, Great Britain, Germany, the
Netherlands, Italy, Spain, Portugal and the American colonies, the
movement culminated in the Atlantic Revolutions, especially the success
of the American Revolution, when breaking free of the British Empire.
The authors of the American Declaration of Independence, the United
States Bill of Rights, the French Declaration of the Rights of Man and
of the Citizen, and the Polish-Lithuanian Constitution of May 3, 1791,
were motivated by Enlightenment principles...'
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Age_of_Enlightenment>

Now say sorry to Uncle Des.

And then **** off.
--
des

'Love may mean never having to say you're sorry, but hating Jews means
never having to say you were wrong'
('cba' on cifwatch.com)
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

 

LOL ... two for the price of one. It gets better.

Next !!

--
des
'The reason grandparents and grandchildren get on so well is that they
have a common enemy'
(Sam Levenson (1911 - 1980))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

 

I interpreted your comment as yet another jibe at Israel.

Here, you might find this interesting ..

<http://is.gd/kuX8d>

I find it fascinating that otherwise 'intelligent' people (like Colin,
Blaney, Cab, TOG etc...) genuinely seem to believe that there was a
'Palestinian homeland'. As Melanie Philips says on that video, it's a sort
of mental illness; a derangement. I can (and have - both here and on at
least three other newsgroups) pointed out - using verifiable and
unassailable historical fact - that there is _literally_ no such people as
'Palestinians' and that the name was only misappropriated in 1967. These
people are 'immune to reason. Immune to fact'. They _still_ claim that
Israel is engaging in 'genocide', or 'ethnic cleansing'. How can one
'ethnically cleanse' an 'ethnicity' that does not exist?

Shall I ...? Oh, I shouldn't ..

Ah to hell with it. After this, I shan't add anything (unless there's a
follow-up) ...

'WHO ARE THE PALESTINIANS?
WHAT & WHERE is PALESTINE?

Please Note: The terms B.C. (Before Christ or Before the Christian Era)
and A.D.("Anno Domini" Latin for "In the Year of Our Lord") have been
replaced with B.C.E (Before Common, or Christian, Era) and C.E.
(Common, or Christian, Era) so as to respect all visitors to this site.
The terms are interchangeable and both are based upon the Gregorian
Calendar.

These and other questions will be addressed more fully as you go
through this website. However, there is a preliminary historical fact
that must be established now. There has never been a civilization or a
nation referred to as "Palestine" and the very notion of a "Palestinian
Arab nation" having ancient attachments to the Holy Land going back to
time immemorial is one of the biggest hoaxes ever perpetrated upon the
world! There is not, nor has there ever been, a distinct "Palestinian"
culture or language. Further, there has never been a Palestinian state
governed BY Arab Palestinians in history, nor was there ever a serious
Arab-Palestinian national movement until 1964... three years BEFORE the
Arabs of "Palestine" lost the West Bank [Judea and Samaria] and Gaza
as a result of the 1967 Six-Day War (which the Arabs started). Even the
so-called leader of the "Palestinian" people, Yasser Arafat, is
EGYPTIAN! In short, the so-called Arab "Palestinians" are a
manufactured people...a people with no history and no authenticity...
whose sole purpose for existence is to destroy the Jewish State!

Israel first became a nation in 1312 B.C.E., two thousand years before
the rise of Islam! Seven hundred and twenty-six years later in 586
B.C.E. these first ancient Jews in the Land of Israel [Judea] were
overrun and Israel's First Jewish Temple (on Jerusalem's Old City
Temple Mount) was destroyed by Nebuchadnezzar, king of ancient Babylon.
Many of the Jews were killed or expelled; however many were allowed to
remain. These Jews along with their progeny and other Jews who would
resettle over the next 500 years, rebuilt the Nation of Israel and
also a Second Temple in Jerusalem upon the Temple Mount. Thus the claim
that Jews suddenly appeared fifty years ago right after the Holocaust
and drove out the Arabs is preposterous!

Then in 70 C.E. (nearly 2000 years ago), it was the Roman Empire's turn
to march through ancient Israel and destroy the SECOND Jewish Temple,
slaughtering or driving out much of its Jewish population. Many Jews
left on their own because conditions for life were made unbearable in
many respects... yet thousands upon thousands stayed and rebelled on
for centuries in order to once again rebuild a Jewish Nation in this
Holy Land.

Over 3250 years, various Peoples, Religions and Empires marched through
Jerusalem, Israel's ancient capital. The region was successively ruled
by the Hebrews [Jews], Assyrians, Babylonians, Persians, Greeks,
Maccabeans, Romans, Byzantines, Arabs, Egyptians, the Crusaders,
Mamelukes, the Turks (who indifferently governed the backward,
neglected territory from the 16th century until the British drove them
out during World War I) and then once again by the Jews in 1948. None
bothered, nor were they in the least bit inclined, to build a Nation of
their own... EXCEPT the Jews!

It must be noted that in 636 C.E., when the Arabs marauders came to the
land and uprooted even more of its Jews, they did not form any Arab
nation there... and certainly not a "Palestinian" nation. They were
simply "Arabs" who, as did others before them, moved into a
geo-political area called "Palestine!" And remember this one fact...
it was not the Jews who "usurped" (a favorite word from the Arab
propagandists) the land from the Arabs. If anything, it was the Arabs
in 636 C.E. who overran and stole it from the Jews!

In Conclusion:

No nation, other than the ancient nation of Israel and later again in
1948 with the rebirth of the 2nd Nation of Israel, has ever ruled as a
sovereign national entity on this land. A mighty Jewish empire
extended over this entire area before the Arabs --- and their Islam
--- were even born! The Jewish People have one of the most legitimate
Birth Certificates of any nations in the world. Every time there is an
archaeological dig in Israel, it does nothing but support the fact
that the Jewish People have had a presence there for well over 3,000
years. The national coins, the pottery, the cities, the ancient
Hebrew texts... all support this claim. Yes, other peoples have
passed through, but there is no mistaking the fact that Jews have
always had a continual presence in that land for over 3,000 years.
This predates and certain dwarfs any claims that other peoples in the
regions may have. The ancient Philistines are extinct. Many other
ancient peoples are extinct. They do not have the unbroken line to
this date that the Jews have. And if you want to talk religion, fine.
G-d GAVE the Land of Israel to the Jewish People. And G-d does nothing
by accident!

"PALESTINE?"

The term "Palestine" came from the name that the conquering Roman
Empire gave the ancient Land of Israel in an attempt to obliterate and
de-legitimize the Jewish presence in the Holy Land. The name
"Palestine" was invented in the year 135 C.E. Before it was known as
Judea, which was the southern kingdom of ancient Israel. The Roman
Procurator in charge of the Judean-Israel territories was so angry at
the Jews for revolting that he called for his historians and asked them
who were the worst enemies of the Jews in their past history. The
scribes said, "the Philistines." Thus, the Procurator declared that
Land of Israel would from then forward be called "Philistia" [further
bastardized into "Palaistina"] to dishonor the Jews and obliterate
their history. Hence the name "Palestine."

One more thing. Very often one hears the revisionists and propagandists
finding ancient historical links between the "Philistines" ("Invaders"
in Hebrew) and the Arab "Palestinians." There is no truth to this
claim! The Philistines were one of a number of Sea Peoples who reached
the eastern Mediterranean region approximately 1250-1100 B.C.E. They
were actually an amalgamation of various ethnic groups, primarily of
Aegean and south-east European origin [Greece, Crete and Western
Turkey] and they died out over 2500 years ago! Those Philistines were
not Arab... and neither was Goliath! The Arabs of "Palestine" are just
that... Arabs! And these Arabs of "Palestine" have about as much
historical roots to the ancient Philistines as Yasser Arafat has to the
Eskimos!

The ancient, indigenous inhabitants of Palestine are long perished from
the earth. Canaanites, Phoencians, and then Philistines, all were
dominated by the Israelites before 1060 B.C.E. Most of these cultural
identities dissolved completely by the neo-Babylonian age, or, the 6th
century B.C.E. Arabs werenÂ’t even in Palestine until the mid-7th
century C.E., over a thousand years later, after PalestineÂ’s
1,300-year Jewish history. Arabs later living in Palestine never
developed themselves or the land, but remained nomadic and
quasi-primitive

Even the word "Palestine" has no meaning in Arabic - every word in
Arabic has some meaning deriving from the Koran, but the word
"Palestine" does not. If anything, the name "Palestine" was associated
with Jews. In the years leading up to the rebirth of Israel in 1948,
those who spoke of "Palestinians" were nearly always referring to the
region's Jewish residents. For example, the "Palestine Post"
[forerunner of today's Jerusalem Post] newspaper and the Palestine
Symphony Orchestra were all-Jewish. The "Palestine Brigade Regiment"
was composed exclusively of Jewish volunteers in the British World War
II Army. In fact, Arab leaders rejected the notion of a unique
"Palestinian Arab" identity, insisting that Palestine was merely a part
of "Greater Syria."

THE RETURN TO ZION
A return through both time and space to their ancestral homeland

The Land of Israel was never devoid of Jews, although at times she
numbered only in the tens of thousands. This was because the land was
virtually uninhabitable when the Jews once again began their God-given
right AND duty to return en masse to the land of their forefathers (the
Zionist Movement) in the 1880s. The silly rhetoric about a massive
Arab presence being overrun by "invading Jews" is quickly dispelled by
Mark Twain, who visited the area in 1867. From his book, "The
Innocents Abroad"... "A desolate country whose soil is rich enough,
but is given over wholly to weeds... a silent mournful expanse.... a
desolation.... we never saw a human being on the whole route....
hardly a tree or shrub anywhere. Even the olive tree and the cactus,
those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the
country."

The Jews did not displace anyone, because very few of the people who
were there actually owned the land. Most were absentee owners residing
elsewhere. Another fact hardly mentioned by the "new historians" is
that the arriving Jews never threw anyone off any land. All land was
purchased legally from the original owners... whether they be from
"Palestine" itself or elsewhere. Furthermore, top dollar was paid for
this land which, in many cases, was uninhabited and hardly more than
swamp land and rocky terrain. Only about 120,000 Arabs resided in an
area that now comprises the State of Israel, Jordan and the so-called
"West Bank" [Judea and Samaria] in between. By 1890, the number of
Jews who had settled in Palestine reached 50,000 and, by 1907, numbered
100,000. In Jerusalem alone the Jews numbered more than 25,000, out of
a total population in the city of only 40,000 Jews, Christians and
Arabs. The Arabs did, however, constitute a majority over the sparsely
populated countryside abutting Jerusalem.

1880's

From 1888 until 1915 there were about six locust plagues that made the
land nearly uninhabitable. In the 1915 locust plague alone some 40,000
people died and large numbers of Jews and Arabs left the land. Those
that returned did not do so until about 1922 when the Zionist money to
reclaim the land started coming in and a pipe line was laid. Then both
Arabs and Jews started to come in in large numbers.

Palestine's early Jewish Zionists were idealistic pioneers who arrived
in pre-state Israel with every intention of living in peace alongside
their Arab neighbors and upgrading the quality of life for all of the
land's inhabitants. These pre-Israel Zionists (and later, Israelis) had
tried to develop peacefully for the dual benefit of Jews and Arabs in
the land. But the Arab leadership always, starting in the earliest
days, took the low road of insisting that the only solution was for the
Jews to get out, even if that meant continued poverty and stagnation.
When Arab demands were not met, they always resorted to violence.

The vast majority of Arabs came to the area after these early Zionist
pioneers began draining the malaria-infested swamps (above photo) and
plowing the land! In doing so, these Jews created the economic
opportunities and medical availabilities which attracted Arabs from
both surrounding territories and far-away lands! In fact, over 90% of
the Arabs migrated there within the last one hundred years. Most of
the Arabs in "Palestine" were interlopers and squatters originating
from Syria, Jordan, Egypt, Iraq and other lands who simply took
possession of pieces of land. So much for their unfounded claims that
they have been there since "time immemorial!" These Arabs came from
disorganized collections of tribes with a tradition of constantly
terrorizing each other and trying to seize land from their neighbors.
Many of them were social outcasts and criminals who could not find jobs
in their own countries so they searched for their luck elsewhere.
Unfortunately, those Arab immigrants imported into the Holy Land their
age-old culture of terrorizing neighbors in order to seize land. In
fact, today's Arab "Palestinians", let by Arafat and his PLO (sanitized
to the PA, or Palestinian Authority...which is nothing more than A
Network of Murderers Masquerading As Government!) are still nothing
more than street thugs, bullies and 'Little Saddams' found elsewhere
throughout most of the most Arab world.

Yet while the returning Jews were highly motivated to restore the land,
the Arabs seethed with envy and hatred for they lacked both the
leadership to inspire and motivate them for they were, in fact,
historical strangers to this land! Unlike the Jews, those Arabs who
immigrated there had no ancient attachments to or historical memories
of this homeland ... this ancient Land of the JEWS!

The real problem facing those Arabs today is not the lack of a
homeland. The historical root-cause of their problem and frustration is
the fact that the countries they came from have not agreed to accept
them back in. This is why so many of them live, up until today, in
refugee camps, in neighboring Arab countries, lacking fundamental civil
rights. In their frustration they feel that the only hope and choice
they have is to try and steal someone else's country!

In Conclusion:

There was no "Arab Palestinian" history before the Arabs manufactured
one shortly after 1948, and then especially after the June 1967
Arab-Israeli War! In an interview with the Dutch newspaper "Trau"
(March 31, 1977), PLO executive committee member Zahir Muhsein said,
"The Palestinian people does not exist. The creation of a Palestinian
state is only a means for continuing our struggle against the state of
Israel for our Arab unity. In reality today there is no difference
between Jordanians, Palestinians, Syrians and Lebanese. Only for
political and tactical reasons do we speak today about the existence of
a Palestinian people, since Arab national interests demand that we
posit the existence of a distinct 'Palestinian people' to oppose
Zionism. It is also been a "conceptual" war for ownership of the term
"Palestinian" which has been transferred over to the Arabs whereas,
before 1967, "Palestine" has always been synonymous with Eretz Israel
and the Land of Israel.

Archeological sites to this very day continue to yield artifacts with
Hebrew writing, not some fictitious "Palestinian" or Arabic text! The
so-called "Palestinian" Arabs were simply then, as they are now, Arabs
no different culturally, historically or ethnically from other Arabs
living in any of the 24 Arab countries from which they emigrated. The
suggestion that the "Palestinians" are some sub-group of Arabs with
their own unique identity is pure fiction! Great propaganda... but
still pure fiction! And had not the Arabs continued to brainwash
generation upon generation into believing this HISTORICAL HOGWASH about
some ancient "Arab Palestinian" ties to the Holy Land, most could have
gotten themselves a real life by now with much less bloodshed and
suffering for everyone concerned!

Remember: When we use their language (i.e. "West Bank" instead of
Judea-Samaria, "occupied territory" instead of liberated Jewish lands,
"settlements" instead of Jewish communities, "Palestinian" instead of
Arab, "Haram esh Sharif" instead of the Temple Mount, etc.), we are
allowing them to define the issues, create or distort history and
control the debate. GREED, PRIDE, ENVY!

The Arabs and/or Muslims of today control 22 nations... 99½ percent of
the ENTIRE Middle East land mass while Israel occupies only a 1/2 of 1
percent speck on this same map. But that's still too much land for the
Arabs to spare. They want it all. How often have we heard their
familiar cry, "We will fight to our last drop of blood for for every
last grain of sand!" And that is ultimately what all the fighting is
about today. And no matter how many land concessions the Israelis
might make for "peace," it will never be enough! Any peace treaty
between Israel and the Arab world are ultimately meaningless. The most
recent 1993 "Oslo Peace Accord" has brought nothing but homicidal
bombers into Israel. Even the Israeli-Egyptian and Israeli-Jordanian
peace treaties are holding on by a single thread and, if you were to
read their government-controlled newspapers, you'd think they were
still at war with Israel!

PEACE IS IMPOSSIBLE!
There's No More "Middle" in the Middle East

From the moment the Jewish People re-established sovereignty in their
ancient homeland, they sought genuine peace with all of their
neighbors. Unfortunately, their neighbors did not wish to share a
peaceful existence with them. They, like Bin Ladin today, felt that
they had a religious obligation to destroy the non-Arab/Muslim Jewish
State (and, for that matter, ALL non-Arab/Moslem governments in the
world). The Arab campaign against Israel is rooted not in any
negotiable grievances but in a basic opposition to the very existence
of Jewish sovereignty in what they perceive as THEIR Middle East! The
ultimate intent of the Arabs is to separate out a Jewish history from
"Palestine"... and then to separate Israel from the face of the Earth.

When the Palestine Liberation Organization's (PLO) was formed in 1964,
its primary goal was to destroy Israel. After the 1967 Arab-Israeli
war, their goal became two-tracked: Either (1) destroy Israel outright
(the same pre-1967 goal) or (2) the creation of an Arab-Palestinian
state to be used as a launching pad from which to destroy Israel.
Different strategies - same ultimate goal... a state not along side
Israel, but IN PLACE OF Israel. It's really that simple!

For over 3,300 years of history, Jerusalem has been a capital city for
only the Jewish People. Jews have always lived in Jerusalem, except
when they were massacred or driven out. There has, however, been a
nearly unbroken Jewish presence in Jerusalem for the past 1,600 years.
And since the early 1800's, the population of Jerusalem has been
predominantly Jewish. Even when the Jordanians captured and occupied
Jerusalem from 1948-67, they (the Jordanians) never sought to change it
to their capital (replacing Amman) nor make it the capital of all
Arab-"Palestinian" people. Even during the 19 years Jordan "occupied"
most of Jerusalem, Arab leaders from other Arab countries hardly ever
bothered to visit this city! Only to the Jews has Jerusalem ever held
special meaning! The reality is that Jerusalem was never an Arab
capital and that it never was, until the Jews revitalized it, a dusty
provincial city that hardly played and economic, social or political
role.

Another myth deals with the issue of Jerusalem and its Temple Mount.
The myth is that Jerusalem is really an Arab city and that it is a
central focus of Islam. The truth is that the Arabs expressed very
limited interest in the Temple Mount before 1967 after the Six-Day War.
Besides, Mecca and Medina (both in Saudi Arabia) are Islam's holiest
cities!

Islam's Holy(?) Koran mentions Mecca 2 or 3 (implied, but not actually
written) times. It mentions Medina 5 times. It never mentions Jerusalem
and with good reason. There is no historical evidence to suggest
Mohammad ever visited Jerusalem! And if he did visit Jerusalem, it
could not have been until 6 years after his death. Therefore, the
notion that Mohammed ascended to Heaven from a rock in Jerusalem
(today's Dome of the Rock) is even more ridiculous!

One more thing about Jerusalem in general and its Temple Mount in
particular. Jerusalem appears in the Jewish Bible 669 times and Zion
(which usually means Jerusalem, sometimes the Land of Israel) 154
times, or 823 times in all. The Christian Bible mentions Jerusalem 154
times and Zion 7 times. All told, in the Old Testament (the Hebrew
Bible) and the New Testament, the terms "Judah" or "Judea" appear 877
times, and "Samaria" is used on 123 occasions.

Hold on to your hats, everybody. It gets even better. Upon closer look
at their Holy Koran, we have uncovered something quite amazing. These
Muslims may actually be more Jewish than Muslim! Get this... the Koran
mentions "Israel" [or "Israelites"] 47 times, "Jew" or "Jewish" 26
times! Even "Christian" or "Christians" gets 15 mentions!

OK, so maybe Mohammed just forget to mention "Jerusalem". Maybe he also
forgot to mention the Haram-esh-Sharif, their name for Judaism's Temple
Mount. Perhaps it was an honest oversight. That desert heat can do
strange things to one's brain. But surely "Palestine" is mentioned all
through the Koran. After all, the poo' poo' ancient "Palestinians" go
way back, right? WRONG. "Palestine" and "Palestinian" are nowhere to
be found. Perhaps that's because these so-called Arab "Palestinians"
have ancient historical roots going ALL THE WAY back to June 1967! So
much for the Arab, Muslim or "Palestinian" ancient religious or
physical connections to a single ounce of turf in the so-called
"occupied" territories!

From 1948 to 1967, when East Jerusalem and the Temple Mount were
"occupied" by Jordanian Forces following the 1948-9 Arab-Israeli War,
Jerusalem itself was ignored by the Arab world. No Arab leader ever
paid a visit, not even to pray at the al-Aqsa Mosque or the Dome of the
Rock (both located on the JEWISH Temple Mount). Also noteworthy during
this 19 year period of Jordanian occupation' no Jews were allowed
there... not that there was much for them to see since the Arabs
destroyed 58 of Jerusalem's Jewish synagogues! Even the Arabs of
"Palestine" placed so low a priority on Jerusalem that the PLO's
founding charter, the 1964 Palestinian National Covenant, made no
reference whatsoever to it. Only when the Jews recaptured it after the
1967 "Six Day War" (initiated by the Arabs) did the Arab world SUDDENLY
grow very passionate about Jerusalem!

Can any Muslim in the world produce any credible evidence for their
connection to this holy site, other than Mohammed's dream? Believe it
or not, the one and only source for the Muslim's claim to Jerusalem and
the site of the Holy Temple, is a mention in the Koran of a dream that
Mohammed had about an unknown "place far away". Perhaps this "place far
away" is the site of the White House in Washington DC or a Nevada
"chicken ranch?"

In truth, the Dome of the Rock and the Al-Aqsa mosques are just but two
of hundreds of thousands of Muslim mosques around the world. Except for
these two minor mosques, Jerusalem itself has no major Islamic
significance. In fact, far more Christian shrines are in Jerusalem than
Muslim ones!

When a Jew prays from anywhere in the world, he faces the Temple Mount
in Jerusalem. When a Moslem prays, even while IN Jerusalem, he faces
Mecca, Saudi Arabia (1,300 miles away due east!). So in many cases,
even when a Moslem is in Jerusalem, his "hind quarters" are facing
these two Jerusalem mosques! What does THIS tell you! And when
Islamic suicide bombers try to take apart Jerusalem piece by piece,
what does THAT tell you!'
<http://masada2000.org/>

 

<boggle>

You interpret everything as a jibe against Israel. But I honestly don't
see how you could so interpret what I wrote above except by assuming that
I meant exactly the opposite of what I wrote.

I can only assume that what I wrote is less clear than it seems to me;
you're not normally that hard of reading. So, what I meant is that those
ultimately responsible for what I consider the greatest crimes, such as
genocide and starting illegal wars, don't personally commit a violent
act, but I still consider incarceration for those crimes to be
appropriate.

Thanks for the link to a video of Melanie Phillips. I shall enjoy it
later, if I need a corrective for my normal optimism about the state of
humanity. I didn't read the stuff in green ink.

 

Not "discovering and claiming[1]" Oztralia until the late eighteenth
century being the major factor in the delay, no doubt.

American colonies until the revolution, then Oz until the late 1860s.

[1] as opposed to "discovering", wot the cloggies done a century
previous.

 

Well, no. But since every thread where I post invariably gets to the snide
jibe about Fakestinians and how Israel is slaughtering the poor little
diddums (completely ignoring > 10,000 rockets, mortars and missiles aimed
into Israel from Jewish land that Arabs have been squatting for years now),
I assumed you were playing along.

It was the word 'genocide' which tripped the switch. It's often claimed by
anti-Semites such as Blaney and Colin that Israel is engaging in
'genocide'. As there is no such people as 'Palestinians', committing
'genocide' on them would be pretty near impossible.

I would agree. But when I wrote of 'non-violent', I naturally excluded
those who get others to do their violence for them.

Great interview.

Heh.

 

<shrug>

It might do.

It's evolved, quite recently, from a monarchy with an astocracy that
most definitely had vested interests and power and worse, were
considered, or maybe thought they were, 'betters'. There are bound to
be bumps along the evolutionary road.

I absolutely do not believe in letting market forces rule, but
individual humans need motivation and capitalism does at least provide
that mechanism. For sure, for some humans, some it comes from within:
the ones who want to be the best in their field, for example. Many
don't aspire that high. I don't; there can be only one 'best' and I,
like the overwhelming majority, lack the intrinsic specialist talent
necessary to be the very best, so I don't bother.

 

I expect on a dark moonless night a struggling Wallaby is no worse than many
women one might encounter

 

The accent of the new Prime Minister at the very least.

 

Like why we just beat them at cricket[1] again?!


[1] Down, SD, down!

 

http://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport...t-children's-version-of-cricket-201005172737/

 

It will. (Simplifying greatly) capitalism needs growth to survive. Growth
needs raw materials in order to be sustained. The planet's raw materials
are limited. Even disregarding the aforementioned criterion, capitalism is
by its very nature iniquitous: the 'trickle down effect' is a myth, and
whilst other economic systems create inequality, there is only one system
which _relies_ on the creation of a deprived underclass in order to exist
- capitalism.

Call it a 'double whammy' if you will. Civil disobediance and criminality
will set the scene for the inevitable downfall of human society, and the
cherry on the cake will be climatic change which will make what we're
presently experiencing look like a Sunday afternoon shower.

Human civilisation has about a century before it becomes extinct.

--
des
'It is crystal clear to me that if the Arabs put down a draft
resolution blaming Israel for Hurricane Katrina, it would probably have
a majority, the US would veto it and Britain and France would abstain'

<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>

 

Exactly as I see things panning out for him. And, not that he needs it, a
few squid to be made on the back of his memoirs in paperback entitled
"Scapegoat".

 

Ideally my arse.

When people stop robbing others, assaulting others and killing others,
maybe, but not before.

I can see the sun on a clear day and that's around 93 million miles away.
Far enough for me to see without a pair of rose tinted specs. You should try
taking yours off now and again.

 

You see EVERY fucking comment as a slap in face of Israel. Smacks of a
massive inferiority complex to me, especially when a **** off post to "back
you up" is included. Do you REALLY think anyone *anyone* read that post from
top to bottom?

 

I do not believe that is I who wears rose-tinted glasses.
--
des
'If Algeria introduced a draft resolution in the UN, declaring
that the earth was flat and that Israel had flattened it, it would
pass by a vote of 164 to 13, with 26 abstentions'
(Abba Eban (1915-2000))
<http://elderofziyon.blogspot.com/>