Chip Yates electric bike

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Julian Bond, Jan 11, 2011.

  1. Julian Bond

    Julian Bond Guest

    Chip Yates grabs two podium spots on the way to making history at Auto
    Club Speedway in California
    SWIGZ electric superbike matches gasoline-powered pace achieving a
    fastest lap of the race along with a 158mph top speed
    Promise to match gasoline lap times delivered in thrilling fashion
    Chip Yates and his SWIGZ Racing team have achieved the seemingly
    impossible, with two podium finishes for their electric superbike on its
    global racing debut, competing against a competitive field of
    highly-developed gasoline-powered race machines.
    Julian Bond, Jan 11, 2011
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    caferace Guest

    I did a long interview with Chip Yates last night for MotoPod. We
    should have the full show out by late Saturday...

    caferace, Jan 13, 2011
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    Julian Bond Guest

    I'm in a group that is hoping that the development of electric bike
    racing is the opportunity to get much more radical with the rules and
    allow real streamlining and alternate riding positions. So we're very
    unhappy (like Chip) about the maximum weight limit. Also a bit sad that
    nobody can find the money to get properly radical. So far everyone going
    Electric racing is sticking with what they know and building motorised
    bicycles even though the current rules do allow a more radical approach.

    Cedric Lynch[1] especially wants to do this. He's got riders prepared to
    ride them. But he can't get the money for a streamlined FF electric
    racer. Sadly it's probably not helped by his personal transport being a
    hilariously Heath Robinson device or by him being a classic English

    [1] Designer of the Agni motor used by almost everyone. Technical
    advisor to the first IoM TTXGP winner.
    Julian Bond, Jan 13, 2011
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    Julian Bond Guest

    Sorry, I don't see the relevance. Explain?
    Julian Bond, Jan 14, 2011
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    caferace Guest

    The interview with Chip is up, if you're curious... It's pretty deep,
    clocking in at some 67 minutes...

    caferace, Jan 17, 2011
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    Bill C Guest

    Hey Julian
    It's pretty self evident. Howard's point is that you don't need to
    reinvent the wheel every time. Building on tried and true technology
    is a whole lot more likely to be a real world solution.
    This probably works as better than the product in Howard's link and
    makes the point pretty clearly and is an apt comparison IMO.

    "Just set the Folding Camp Toaster on top of your stove or on a grill
    over an open fire and in minutes you'll have great tasting toast to
    • Great for your motor home, camping and backpacking"
    Bill C
    Bill C, Jan 31, 2011
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    Julian Bond Guest

    Here's the original context.
    Ok. So if you're going electric racing, then electrifying an existing
    race bike chassis is more likely to end up as a real world solution.
    Yes, that's what happened in the 1st year of the TTXGP. But in the
    second year, Czysz won with a bike that was new from the ground up and
    used an unconventional front fork.

    Most racing is won by teams that make small incremental improvements.
    But every so often, especially in car racing, somebody somewhere makes a
    radical jump. It often takes a few years for that jump to be copied by
    everyone. Going from head first to feet first, limited streamlining to
    real streamlining is probably comparable to the switch from front
    engined to rear engined racing cars. It's a big leap. But it's overdue.
    And not just for racing but for utility road transport as well.
    Julian Bond, Jan 31, 2011
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    Julian Bond Guest

    "Eccentric" is being kind. Cedric is right out on the edge of the Bell
    Curve and by a normal standard, he's completely barking! But he's also
    an exceptional electrical engineer which is why most of the early
    entrants to the Electric championships used his motors.
    Motorcyclists are a very tribal and hide bound bunch. We don't like
    things that are too different and there's few real engineers and an
    awful lot of experienced mechanics among us. Even something eminently
    sensible like the big scooters get treated with scorn. So it's a good
    thing that there's a few people out there like Cedric, Craig Vetter,
    Royce Creasey and others who simply don't care what anyone thinks. Craig
    especially is pushing boundaries and his goal of 100 mpg at 70 mph, into
    a 30 mph headwind, with four bags of groceries is worth following. His
    current ride is a truly horrible Honda Helix made interesting by some
    fairly ugly streamlining. Just like Cedric's weird machine, you have to
    look beyond the ugliness and hack build to see the beautiful, practical
    commercialise machine waiting to be born.

    Meanwhile, back in racing. The Electric championships are a moment in
    time where we could perhaps release racing from the artificial
    restrictions on design imposed in the 50s. But with each year and with
    nobody trying it, the regs are being brought back in line with GP regs.
    The latest is the weight limits (max 250Kg) that are causing Chip Yates
    problems. It won't surprise me in the slightest if a couple of years
    down the line the concessions about bodywork and riding position are
    also brought back in line.
    Julian Bond, Feb 1, 2011
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