[QUOTE="atec 77"] Well if it does taste bad the run it through the still , though my cider is pretty good , its just a matter of the right apple juice and yeast . I find the brand doesn't matter so much as sugar content .[/QUOTE] What breed of yeast do you use, I got mine from a home brew shop and have since found out that all yeasts are not equal. Unfortunately I never got to get another cheap plentiful supply of apples again. I may have another go if I can eliminate the beer taste, as I now have plenty of freezer space and some hydraulic muscle. Dain.