Classic Bie?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Greybeard, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    What is the acshual definition of a classic bike?
    Is it age related or that it is a rarity as only a couple of "a"
    particular model was made?

    Kind of scratching my head a bit?

    Discuss?

    Taa.

    Greybeard.
     
    Greybeard, Feb 22, 2011
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    AW Guest

    AW, Feb 22, 2011
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  3. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    Bad form..
    I NEED a new keyboard. :)
     
    Greybeard, Feb 22, 2011
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  4. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    Greybeard, Feb 22, 2011
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  5. Greybeard

    Salad Dodger Guest

    from uk.rec.motorcycles.classic (the clue's in the namem)

    What is a classic bike?
    Tricky. Everyone has their own ideas. Some people swear by (or at, or
    occasionally both) their old British stuff. Some go by the classic
    insurance guidelines that anything over 15 years qualifies. Some point
    to "acknowledged modern classics" like the Ducati 916 as not falling
    into either of the above categories. Some point to old stuff like BSA
    C15s which are old enough but were horrible when they were new and are
    now old and horrible.


    If you want one suggestion, from a certain GSXR1000-racing
    hairdresser:


    "classic status" = "age" x "how good was it when it was new?" x
    "special
    interest multiplier"


    where age must have a minimum value of, say, 10 years, "How good when
    new" is rated on the scale of 1 to 10, and the "special interest
    multiplier" varies between 1 and 2. Let's work some examples :


    400 four = 25 x 8 x 1 = 200
    Suzuki RE5 = 28 x 3 x 2 = 168
    GPZ900R = 17 x 9 x 1= 153
    GPz750 turbo = 17 x 7 x 1.5 = 119
    BSA Bantam = 45 x 3 x 1 = 135
    Norton Commando = 30 x 4 x 1= 120
    CB500T = 27 x 3 x 1.2 = 97.2
    XS750 = 22 x 3 x 1.4 = 92.4


    So, as stuff gets old, it slowly becomes classic no matter how shite
    it
    used to be considered, with an allowance made for 'interesting' stuff.

    I reckon a threshold of 100 works. So, for a 10 year old bike to
    count,
    it has to be a brilliant bike. A 20 year old only has to be average.
    After 50 years, almost any old shit gets in.
     
    Salad Dodger, Feb 22, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    wessie, Feb 22, 2011
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  7. Greybeard

    AW Guest


    …..you can't get quality editorial staff these days…..
     
    AW, Feb 22, 2011
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  8. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    Right???

    I'm not sure I get that 400/4 is a great classic, the useless piece of
    shit I had (not for very long mind) was rubbish from the minute it was
    spawned from the crate.

    But it does go with my feeling that a True Classic is really in the eye
    of the beholder.

    Greybeard.
     
    Greybeard, Feb 22, 2011
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  9. Greybeard

    Chas Guest


    I actually quite like this, except I can't see how a 400 four can possibly score
    higher than a GPz900r.

    I acknowledge the existence of an RE5 but I don't know anyone daft enuff to pay
    money for one.

    GPz750 turbo . . . Hmmm, I'd rather have the base model in my stable.

    What really exposes you though is the XS750, did you once own one & still feel
    the need to justify your purchasing decision?

    A 'true' classic is what people desire to purchase for whatever personal
    reasons, let the market decide.
     
    Chas, Feb 22, 2011
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  10. Greybeard

    sweller Guest

    You truly are a man of great vision and insight.

    I honestly can't see "it" in the 400/4 - it's just a 70s UJM with nice
    looking exhausts and a gash studded seat.
     
    sweller, Feb 22, 2011
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  11. Given that most classics are made or broken by the biking press I would
    suggest that the eye of the beholder is more likely to be the whim of the
    editor.
     
    steve auvache, Feb 22, 2011
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    R C Nesbit Guest

    Greybeard spoke:
    I bet thast what Teryr Pratchit sed when he strated havnig problems!



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    Looks like Rab C Nesbit.
     
    R C Nesbit, Feb 22, 2011
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  13. <not biting>
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 22, 2011
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  14. Secondhand prices tell their own story. But the 900R absolutely *will*
    be up there. I'm still looking for the "right" one to buy, while they're
    still cheap.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 22, 2011
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I think it's because there are thousands of them out there so plenty of
    people can buy one and think they've got a classic. I'd sooner have a
    decent condition 500-4 because it's an older bike and (imo) looks a lot
    better with the four seperate silencers.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Feb 22, 2011
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  16. Greybeard

    mark Guest

    Cruel bastards.
    I just wanted one because I wanted one when I was too young to have one
    :)

    Now,I can look at it and then; this is the bit I like,
    walk up to it and ride off on it [1]
    :D

    Do I need any more reasons?
    I like the exhaust as well.

    1. If the batteries charged.....
     
    mark, Feb 22, 2011
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  17. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    How come this has got my name on it?

    Who am I anyway :)

    Greybeard.
     
    Greybeard, Feb 22, 2011
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    ginge Guest

    10 years from now I reckon on the ZRX featuring in that list. The
    last twin shock bike, and non fuel injected bike that Kawasaki ever
    sold, and pretty much the end point of the ZZR engine line.
     
    ginge, Feb 22, 2011
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  19. Greybeard

    SIRPip Guest

    Yeah, there's reasons for that.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 22, 2011
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    wessie Guest

    <sub-edited>
     
    wessie, Feb 22, 2011
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