Classic Bie?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Greybeard, Feb 22, 2011.

  1. Greybeard

    Adrian Guest

    Not even that. Some coils have very different primary resistances - use
    the wrong one, and you'll kill the ignition in short order.
     
    Adrian, Feb 25, 2011
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  2. Greybeard

    Krusty Guest

    We're talking about ones with the same specs.
     
    Krusty, Feb 25, 2011
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  3. Greybeard

    Adrian Guest

    So all coils with the same spec are the same, apart from quality.

    I'm so glad you pointed that out to me. I wouldn't have guessed.
     
    Adrian, Feb 25, 2011
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  4. Greybeard

    Krusty Guest

    So why say a coil with the wrong spec will cause problems? That's
    pretty obvious, & completely irrelevant to what was being discussed.
     
    Krusty, Feb 25, 2011
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  5. Greybeard

    Adrian Guest

    No, it's fairly relevant when somebody's just incorrectly stated...
    Think of it as expanding on...if you prefer.
     
    Adrian, Feb 25, 2011
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  6. Wotcha.
    Slow, very slow.
    Looks like I'll be losing this Summer too - there again, I've almost
    finished the hand change on the Drifter so two wheels may not be out of the
    question.

    That's the thing, they are selling new Indian Bullets as "emerging
    classics".
    I think they are talking "potential bollocks" there.

    Hmm - my Bullet is twenty years old now, time to emerge maybe ?
     
    ^..^ Lone Wolf, Feb 25, 2011
    #86
  7. Only one of which (rare) is a given from new and the ravages of time
    tends all of them towards that anyway. So it holds as much water as any
    other 'system' of classification.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 25, 2011
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  8. Those pesky artists just liked living in garrets.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Feb 25, 2011
    #88
  9. So, no chance of their programme ever being called a classic then,
     
    steve auvache, Feb 25, 2011
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  10. Greybeard

    wessie Guest

    who was the lucky bottom?
     
    wessie, Feb 25, 2011
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  11. Greybeard

    Greybeard Guest

    Slow's good. The problems are bad when slow becomes stopped :)
    That'll be interesting to see, a hand change Drifter. Good luck with
    getting out and about.
    Although the Injin bulletts have been around for a long time, I'd have a
    500 for the right money as a rice cooker. I'd love a nice old
    Continental though, that would be taking me back to my yoof when I saw a
    mate go in one side of a car and out t'other at Ally Pally when on his.
    I used to CIHAGM of it quite a bit, full cafe racer styleee.
    Mate was surprisingly ok but SMIDSY's car was totaled.

    What Bullet is your emerging classic?
     
    Greybeard, Feb 25, 2011
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  12. Greybeard

    sweller Guest

    I remember looking at an OE exhaust system for a GS550E nearly 20 years
    ago and, IIRC, it was the best part of £700
     
    sweller, Feb 25, 2011
    #92
  13. Greybeard

    sweller Guest

    Getting a part discounted down from a motor factor isn't quite the same
    as using no name shonkyness. Getting bits from eBay probably is...

    Most motor factors use good quality pattern parts (certainly the ones I
    use) - such as Mahle filters, Intermotor ignition etc.

    Interestingly, £20 for a Jag coil isn't cheap.
    OE Lucas part £13.48:
    http://www.sngbarratt.com/catalogue...ategoryid=14&stype=2&pagepos=24&back=y&next=y
     
    sweller, Feb 25, 2011
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  14. Not surprised. Dave Silver simply went to the OE manufacturer in japan
    and said: "Keep 'em coming, and I'll take this many off you every year."
    The tooling would have been paid for decades ago.

    The design changed slightly, a couple of years ago: the silencer was
    made integral with the collector box, which was definitely a retrograde
    step. And then manufacture stopped completely.

    Dave Silver has now commissioned Motad to make a replica collector box,
    but it isn't quite the same. Pattern header pipes are available, and
    they look the same, but (critically) they aren't double-skinned like OE
    Honda and so they go yellow or blue at the manifold.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 25, 2011
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  15. Greybeard

    crn Guest

    Japanese bike parts are often stupidly expensive. The exhaust on the
    Majesty was badly vrot in the usual places, Yamaha wanted 670 quid
    for an OE known-to-rot replacement, I found a nice new complete
    stainless replacement for 145 . **** originality - its a shopping
    trolley and will never be considered a classic.
     
    crn, Feb 25, 2011
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  16. Greybeard

    SIRPip Guest

    Context, sonny, context. In the 1960s, when points were in vogue and
    they'd just gone over to negative earth systems, coils were universal.
    As to that, I'd imagine that pretty much anything from a modern motor
    factor's shelf would be at least the equal of something out of a Lucas
    box from 1966.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 26, 2011
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  17. Greybeard

    SIRPip Guest

    Kevin Kline, IIRC.
     
    SIRPip, Feb 26, 2011
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  18. Greybeard

    Krusty Guest

    <Pip-merge>

    Unless it had Moto Guzzi written on it.
     
    Krusty, Feb 26, 2011
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  19. Greybeard

    sweller Guest

    Did Lucas supply OE to Moto Guzzi? I know Bosch, CEV and Moto Magnetti
    did.
     
    sweller, Feb 26, 2011
    #99
  20. They certainly did. I tested a Spada III back in the early 1990s, and
    discovered it had some Lucas bits on it. As I said in the piece, it
    raised the spectre of MG having run out of decent stuff, and Luigi
    rootling round some dead Marinas in the local scrapyard.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Feb 26, 2011
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