Classic Bike Values

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Aido, Nov 29, 2006.

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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    Come on Clem, You're not 35.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 29, 2006
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    smack Guest

    Have Jap bikes changed that much? I thought they just changed the stickers.
    :p
     
    smack, Nov 30, 2006
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    Rod Bacon Guest

    The thing with "classics" of this sort, is that they're worth only what
    someone will actually pay for them...

    This sounds silly (and smart-arsish - is that a word? I think it is
    now!) , but there's plenty of "classics" that have been lovingly
    resto'd and have had their value estimated at 10+K, but will never see
    a buyer prepared to fork over that sort of moolah.

    What it's "worth" and what someone will acually part with, are often
    two very different things, specifically where "classics" are concerned.

    If I was going for something of that vintage, I'd look for something a
    little more "defining".
     
    Rod Bacon, Nov 30, 2006
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    Boxer Guest

    A motorcycle or any other thing is only worth what the market is prepared to
    pay for it.

    I would be prepared to pay up to $5,000 for a "Cherry" CB750 Honda 1969.

    How much a Project bike is worth is difficult to determine because the cost
    to bring these thing to Pristine condition is difficult to estimate and many
    parts are just not available.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Nov 30, 2006
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    My dad wants to sell his old car. Motor rattles a bit and the wind blows
    through it. If it rains you'll need a raincoat to drive it. He is only
    asking $14,000 for it. It's a 1926 Overland Whippet. Probably cost $300 new.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 30, 2006
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    Rod Bacon Guest

    I'll give him $400 for it.

    33% profit is not a bad return on a motor vehicle.
     
    Rod Bacon, Nov 30, 2006
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    He didn't buy it new. He was only 11 in 1926. :)

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 30, 2006
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  8. In aus.motorcycles on 29 Nov 2006 17:30:12 -0800
    And with most, it has to be utterly original, especially the Japanese
    ones.

    A 750/4 first model SOHC is worth much less if it doesn't have the 4
    pipes.

    You usually have to wait for a buyer. I have had a waiting list for
    some time of people interested in the Old Girl, but I expect if she
    actually came on the market many would have done something else with
    the money :) But if I waited then there'd be a buyer at my asking
    price.

    But rare Euro bikes have more chance than early Jappers, especially
    something like the 750/4 which was fairly wow! in its day but there's
    been a lot of them and it was overshadowed by the Kwaka 9.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 30, 2006
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I have no recollection of WWI. I do remember the end of WWII.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Nov 30, 2006
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    G-S Guest

    And I'd be prepared to pay up to about $7500 for the same thing... the
    trouble is I keep getting outbid by buggers prepared to pay up to
    $10,000 for the same thing :-/


    G-S
     
    G-S, Nov 30, 2006
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  11. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 16:54:04 +1000
    Yeah, an immaculate properly restored first model 750/4 would be a
    quite an item.

    Of course most of the SOHCs about aren't the 69 ones :) And worth a
    hell of a lot less.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 30, 2006
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    Nev.. Guest

    It's $450. That's less than the cost of a years registration, so in
    other words its negligible. If someone said it was worth $200 would you
    change your mind?

    Nev..
    '04 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Nov 30, 2006
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  13. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 30 Nov 2006 18:16:40 +1100
    Considering that only the '69 would go for 10, and that with all the
    expensive hard to get bits...

    A set of pipes is probably $3k for example.

    And redoing the instruments if they are faded would be expensive.

    (Never bothered on the Devil, but as I'm not selling that it doesn't
    matter. And now it's not 100% original (even for 70s italian values
    of original) it would be pointless.)
    Which is why the britbike market has dropped like the proveribal
    stone.
    The bikes that go for a lot of money went for a lot of money when
    new.

    An MV Agusta America might be a 20 grand bike now, but it was never
    cheap....

    Yeah, stories of Broughs going for peanuts abound but I dunno how real
    those stories are. They always seem to be "father of a friend".
    Yup. YOu won't make money on it, so make it a tidy nice bike to ride
    and look at. Ride it and enjoy it for what it is, which is a 30yo
    bike eligible for historic registration.

    If it *is* a '69 and has the 4 pipes, then maybe spend money on it,
    but if it's just a singlecam with a 4-1 then tidy it up and ride it.

    There's a bod who parks behing the VC in North Sydney who rides a
    400/4 to work. Leaves his modern sportbike at home. Reckons it's
    cheap to run and fun to ride (if you are careful about stopping
    distances) and does him for a commuter.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Nov 30, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Well the CONCEPT is the same.....
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 30, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Am I the only one who read this and mentally responded "Whip it good...."
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 30, 2006
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  16. The first 750/4 was a shit of a bike with seperate throttle cables,
    I had a K1 I bought from Peter Chiodo which was the fastest bike in Victoria
    on the track and the road, it beat the Crawfords on their Kwaka 750's out at
    Calder a few times
    been trying to buy another K1 for yonks but cant find any
     
    George W. Frost, Nov 30, 2006
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    Hammo Guest

    I have to pass all comments to be vetted first these days...

    Hammo
     
    Hammo, Nov 30, 2006
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    smack Guest

    Thats why the '66 Monza is still in a shed in Grafton. A quote of at least
    $7k to restore it and have it worth less than half that doesn't make sense
    to me. It can sit there a few more years
     
    smack, Nov 30, 2006
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    atec 77 Guest

    You might do the work your self at a fraction of the cost , I was quoted
    4k to respray one of the jags , it cost me $320.00 and about 25 hours to
    do it myself and it's a damned good job as I had instruction from a
    retired beater , if you decide to let the monza go I would happy to
    speak to you about it .
    I think however you might find a clean Monza is gaining value in good
    condition very quickly and making it good will be cheaper if you have a go.
     
    atec 77, Nov 30, 2006
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    smack Guest


    Remeber it's not a Guzzi Monza. Tis an ugly duc
     
    smack, Nov 30, 2006
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