Classic Bike Values

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Aido, Nov 29, 2006.

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    G-S Guest

    Even among GPz900's there are differing degrees of 'classicness'...

    the later 17 inch front wheel model handles better but has less power
    and is less sought than the early 16 inch model with more horsepower.

    In a similar way the later Z900 is worth less than the earlier Z1.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Dec 3, 2006
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    Rod Bacon Guest

    I have a red flowerpot on my head...
     
    Rod Bacon, Dec 3, 2006
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    Theo Bekkers Guest

    I remember three allied soldiers billeted in our house. I was about 18
    months old at the time.

    Theo
     
    Theo Bekkers, Dec 4, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    ENERGY DOME thank you!
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 5, 2006
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    MikeH Guest

    Add $3.50 to $446 and your almost there!
    Nah, 50c short....... walk away!
    MikeH
     
    MikeH, Dec 6, 2006
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  6. In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 07 Dec 2006 03:52:34 +1100
    Hell yeah. Aside from it being an injoke, it was a seminal bike. I
    remember when it came out, we were gobsmacked.

    It was as important and desirable a big bike as the LC250 was a small
    bike.


    being first of anything doesn't make a bike a classic in my opinion.
    What does is that at the time and later people thought "that's
    impressive".

    The LC was *the* 2 stroke boy racer in a way the previous RDs weren't.
    I remember the ads "Factory rearsets" because at the time if you
    wanted your 2 stroke to be a proper boy racer you had to buy
    aftermarket stuff. The LC came set up like a real racebike. And it
    was fast and watercooled and it was absolutely the most desirable 250
    and you didn't get anything better till you got to the real big bikes.

    Sure, the RZ and RGV and KR were better and faster, but the LC has its
    place in history. As does the RGV which was the final and the best.

    The GPz900 was Kwaka's first watercooled bike, and it was a bombshell
    when it hit. Swooping styling, faired, fast, a whole new type of bike
    for kawasaki and to some extent for everyone. The original aircooled
    GPZs had been big in their day but this was something special.

    Classic isn't "first" it's "if you were there at the time, was it a
    bike everyone thought was brill? And 20 or 30 years later, do they
    still think it was?" Influencing a lot of other bikes is also a good
    marker, eg the LC.

    Zebee
     
    Zebee Johnstone, Dec 6, 2006
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    J5 Guest

    you must be new around these parts then ;)
     
    J5, Dec 6, 2006
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    Boxer Guest


    The CB450 of 1965 is clearly a classic.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Dec 6, 2006
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    G-S Guest

    The GPz900R was the first jap bike to combine 4 valve head, liquid
    cooling, single shock rear end and full fairing.

    It was the first 'modern' bike.


    G-S
     
    G-S, Dec 7, 2006
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    IK Guest

    Ummm, the Z1300 was watercooled, and that came out in 1978, six years
    before the GPz.

    Didn't it, Hammo?
     
    IK, Dec 7, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yup; I agree.
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 7, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Well spotted IK!
    The KR250 might've just snuck in before the GPZ900 too but it'd be a
    close-run thing.
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 7, 2006
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    IK Guest

    Well, they both came out in 1984... it'd take someone who was paying
    more attention at the time than me to remember in which months the two
    went on sale.
     
    IK, Dec 7, 2006
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    Hammo Guest

    It lacked the 4 valve per cylinder, the monoshock and the fairing.....

    Had a 27 L fuel tank though [1].

    Hammo
    [1] Well most countries did.
     
    Hammo, Dec 7, 2006
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  15. I don't know if it was the first Jap prod bike with a four valve head, but
    the TX500 Yamaha in 1973(a production bike) had four valves per cylinder
    long before the GSX1100 was produced.

    Al
     
    Alan Pennykid, Dec 8, 2006
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    Boxer Guest

    It was a DOHC two valve motor with a rev limit of 10,000 a really
    interesting bike that took on the brits and won with 200-300 cc's less.

    Boxer
     
    Boxer, Dec 8, 2006
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    smack Guest

    Funny bloke that Zebee
     
    smack, Dec 8, 2006
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yep; there was a TX750 too... (but Yamaha don't like to talk about
    that......)
     
    Knobdoodle, Dec 8, 2006
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    Boxer, Dec 8, 2006
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