Cleaning/water intrusion

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Phil, Squid-in-Training, Feb 15, 2006.

  1. So I finally took off the fairings off my bike to straighten out the front
    cowl. It was far easier than I had anticipated, and now I get to see the
    guts of my bike! I want to clean it off and do some small maintenance bits.
    I know I shouldn't pressure-wash anything, but what should I beware of
    getting water in? I know the air intake, the wheel/swingarm bearings, and
    the fork, but how well sealed are the electrical bits? Anything else I
    should watch out for?
     
    Phil, Squid-in-Training, Feb 15, 2006
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  2. Phil, Squid-in-Training

    John Johnson Guest

    IIRC, you've got a CBR600f3. Your electrical connectors are not sealed.
    To be quite honest, I take a pretty practical attitude towards cleaning
    the bike, and cleaning beneath the cowls is generally not high on my
    list of practical work (unlike, say, making sure that the brake pistons
    and slide pins are clean and properly lubricated).

    --
    Later,
    John



    'indiana' is a 'nolnn' and 'hoosier' is a 'solkk'. Indiana doesn't solkk.
     
    John Johnson, Feb 15, 2006
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  3. Phil, Squid-in-Training

    Alfred J. Guest

    Your electrical wiring harness connectors are probably not sealed at
    all, unless they are in a "swamp area" of the motorbike.

    "Swamp area" is a term we used on aircraft. Everything exposed to the
    elements, or below a certain level inside the aircraft was considered
    to be in the "swamp" and needed sealing to avoid corrosion.

    Motorbikes don't usually have a lot of electrical stuff in the "swamp",
    except for engine connectors low down on the engine, or maybe headlight
    connectors that might get blasted if some newbie went riding his
    Hurricane in a hurricane.

    And, here you are talking about taking all the covers off your machine
    and bringing the swamp to the unsealed connectors? Maybe the best
    answer is "don't do it"?

    So what if there's a bit of dust underneath the side covers or under
    the gas tank? Florida isn't all that dusty, frequent rains keep the
    dust down, but people driving on the beaches deposit salt on the roads.

    If there's a bunch of beach salt accumulating under the covers, it's
    good to be aware of that problem and to try to engineer a solution to
    it. But, sometimes solutions lead to more problems than they solve.
    Like, I once folded up a red shop towel and put it underneath the side
    cover of my Suzuki to keep it from flopping around.

    But the shop towel got soaked with water when I rode in the wet. The
    wet towel caused corrosion on the exposed bridge rectifier in my
    charging system. A new one cost me $50.00....

    If your electrical connectors are clean and dry and free of corrosion,
    you might try sealing them with dielectric grease. Like, the headlight
    connectors in the swamp of my T-Bird were just filled with dielectric
    grease. But the electrical contacts were pushed together with a lot of
    force which you might not get with the plastic modular connectors that
    the Japanese use on motorbikes.

    You might consider sealing all the clean, dry connectors externally,
    while they are still mated, with RTV silicone rubber cement, like
    windshield sealer. Most commercial available RTV sealers are easily
    removable.

    So far as cleaning what you can see from the outside of your machine
    without pulling off all the panels:

    Little bits of grease and road tar can be removed with a clean cloth
    soaked in WD40.

    Lemon Pledge furniture polish is good for light cleaning, too.

    Gunk is not a good way to remove grease, because there is soap in the
    solution and the petroleum distillate solvent in Gunk penetrates every
    crevice it can get into and the soap follows the Gunk and remains on
    metal surfaces, corroding them.

    And there are times when a motorcycle just needs a soap and water
    douche to get abrasive dirt and grit off of it. You can use household
    dishwashing liquid or commercial car wash preparations. They will leave
    surfaces clean, but they will usually remove any wax you've applied.

    I put duct tape over the gas cap, the exhaust exit, the ignition switch
    and the reserve tank switch that Yamaha uses instead of having a
    petcock with a reserve position.

    I put duct tape over the chain, too, to keep as much water as possible
    off the chain.

    You might also consider bagging the handlebar control switches to keep
    water out of them. Getting water in the horn switch is annoying because
    the horn won't work. Getting water in the clutch switch and the starter
    button is annoying because the engine might not start.

    But, getting water in the headlight switch could be fatal if your
    lights quit working while you're riding at night.
     
    Alfred J., Feb 15, 2006
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  4. Phil, Squid-in-Training

    OH- Guest

    Fascinating stuff! Your bike must love you!

    All this is very nice but just a little over the top for a person
    that accepts that a bike is just a machine. I have mostly
    owned unfaired bikes where a lot of electric connections and
    switches are not very well protected.

    Shock and horror, I have ridden these bikes through tens of
    thousands of miles of rain (and the chain was in place, not in
    a sealed plastic bag).

    Sometimes they get so dirty that I actually wash them and
    every time I do that I use the water hose a lot and I don't
    cover up bits of the bike. Once in a while one of the
    switches (usually when the bike is has done some years and
    miles) will give me a bit of trouble but not enough to lose
    sleep over. Generally the connectors work just fine (with a
    few exceptions caused by unusually dumb location right in
    the wheel spray or such).

    Maybe I should add that I tend to own bikes for a decade
    rather than a year so I'm not just careless and pass any
    trouble on to the next owner.

    I'm not saying my methods are better, just that they
    work, and work well.
     
    OH-, Feb 15, 2006
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  5. Thanks for the insight... lots of helpful info.
     
    Phil, Squid-in-Training, Feb 16, 2006
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  6. Stuff that ought to be watertight or at least well shielded

    Things that hold oil (engine, forks, etc)
    Bearings
    High tension ignition stuff (enough so it's not shorting)
    Connectors (to avoid corrosion)
    switches (so they continue to work right)
    Places where water can collect (tail lights etc).
    places where tach or speedo cables connect to the engine/tranny

    Be careful about washing with any kind of high pressure hose.
    Try to be careful about stuff on the above list, particularly if
    the bike is a few years old and the sealing in these areas is iffy.
     
    Rob Kleinschmidt, Feb 17, 2006
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