Cognitive dissonance

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Technical Discussion' started by Mark Olson, Aug 29, 2011.

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    Mark Olson Guest

    Indeed they do- so when you find a really good mechanic, cultivate a
    relationship with him/her, because they appear to be as rare as rocking
    horse shit.

    Sounds like the bike was a bit neglected. I was under the impression
    this was a fairly low mileage bike, and shouldn't have needed pads yet?
    Which makes me wonder if the caliper was stuck, which wore the pads out
    prematurely.

    Hopefully the 2nd mechanic, in addition to replacing the pads, will
    also strip the caliper down and clean it, or at least push the pistons
    out a little more and clean around them with a brush to ensure they
    are not sticking in their bores, then flush the old brake fluid out
    of the caliper and master cylinder.
     
    Mark Olson, Aug 29, 2011
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    sean_q Guest

    A metallic scraping sound when I applied my Sportster's front (disk)
    brake indicated that the pads were worn out. So I took it to a local
    Harley dealership (which need not be named), parked by the service door
    and asked to get it checked out.

    In short order a mechanic emerged with a flashlight and examined my
    front wheel. "The pads are brand new," he said. "They just have to
    wear in a bit to match the rotor."

    So I rode away happy... for a short time, until I hit the front brake
    again. Still that ominous scraping sound.

    I felt tense. Classic symptom of Cognitive Dissonance, where the advice
    of a professional expert clashed with the evidence of my senses.

    Which to believe? Who was I, mechanically challenged, to dispute
    the word of a certified Harley mechanic? In other circumstances
    such as an inquest or a trial, his word would carry far more weight
    with the court than mine. And yet the scraping sound continued.
    The pads were sure taking their time wearing in, I thought.

    Finally I took the bike to a backyard wrench; non-certified but with
    a good deal of real-life motorcycle experience. It took him only
    a short time to discover that the pads were totally worn out.
    Where any pad material remained it was paper-thin. Luckily the rotor
    is still in usable shape. The Harley mechanic had apparently
    mistaken the bare backing plates for new pads, with the piston
    fully extended.

    Sometimes even the experts get it wrong.

    SQ
    cc: Reeky
     
    sean_q, Aug 29, 2011
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    Keith Guest

    Double plus on what he said. This is also a great opportunity to
    change to a better for you brake pad compound. Because better stopping
    ability is ALWAYS better imo.
     
    Keith, Aug 29, 2011
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    Beryl Guest

    That's my opinion too, Better is ALWAYS Better.
     
    Beryl, Aug 29, 2011
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    Keith Guest

    What many never seem to understand is the brake pads that work for me
    and mine do **** all for you. 8^)
     
    Keith, Aug 30, 2011
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    Ian Field Guest


    Its allways better to push the pistons all the way out and inspect any seal
    debris that might give a clue to the condition of the whole system.

    Also I swear by special brake seal grease, in the UK we have red brake seal
    grease, alternatively silicone grease from electronic component suppliers is
    water repellant and inhibits corrosion.
     
    Ian Field, Aug 30, 2011
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