Cold climate oil grades

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by stephen.packer, Jan 16, 2011.

  1. stephen.packer

    Mark Olson Guest

    Being a lifelong Swede and inhabitant of the frozen north myself,
    I concur with the herring-scoffer.

    Stay away from slippery oils which _will_ ruin the clutch, use an
    oil recommended by Yamaha and on cold mornings, preheat the engine
    with whatever is to hand before running it to help it to start and
    reduce the chance of lubrication failure.

    Another possibility, if it's a dry sump engine, is to siphon/drain
    out as much oil as you can and heat it up in a tin over the stove,
    which might seem too fiddly but beats hell out of having your bike
    catch fire from overenthusiastic application of the Primus.
     
    Mark Olson, Jan 16, 2011
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  2. <fx: contemplates Ducati cuddling oil-filled radiator in garage>

    Er, me too....
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 16, 2011
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  3. So that's three old gimmers who remember them, anyway.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 16, 2011
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  4. That'll be one of Bonwick's matchstick-thin roll-ups, then.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 16, 2011
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  5. stephen.packer

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    The Yams and the Armstrong are oil in frame design so not ideal for
    warming the engine with a stove plus mine has a full length sump guard
    which would suck any heat away before it got to where it'd do any
    good.

    I'll just tie an old blanket over the bike when I park it then cover
    it with a tarpaulin to keep the wind off and that'll do it.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 16, 2011
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  6. stephen.packer

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    We used to hook the motors up to a power point that ran a block heater
    when I was working in Kazakstan and never had one fail to start even
    when it went down to -30c or lower.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 16, 2011
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  7. stephen.packer

    Scraggy Guest

    randed oil just to make sure they can't argue if it gets to
    This.
    IME all machinery operated in those temps must be warmed prior to use.
    If you can be arsed, a swift brush(1) down of slush( you should be so
    lucky) on exposed gaiters etc will help prevent ice damage to suspension
    parts etc when you set off the following morning.
    At the risk of being even more boring, one presumes you will have a full
    flask of hot drink per person when you leave in the morning. Just a
    thought.

    (1) Sorry if this is a granny/egg thing, but a brush(medium strength
    bristle) for removing snow from footwear etc prior to bedding down helps
    keep the damp down as I'm sure you know.
     
    Scraggy, Jan 16, 2011
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  8. stephen.packer

    Pete Fisher Guest

    How about carrying one of those chemical hand warmer things in case it
    gets really difficult for the motor to turn over. Activate it, then
    stuff it under the cover as close to the sump as you can while packing
    up other gear.

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    Pete Fisher, Jan 16, 2011
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  9. stephen.packer

    ts Guest

    (snip)
    Below -37°C, desperate souls might even make use of the pint-ish volume
    of 37°C fluid usually wasted by making yellow cones in the snow. Fill up
    plastic bag, place on engine block/oil reservoir. Every little helps :)
     
    ts, Jan 16, 2011
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  10. stephen.packer

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    I always made a flask up as the last job before setting out when I was
    doing a lot of climbing/camping out in mountains. It doesn't take long
    and can make a big difference.

    When I sat waiting in a snowy laybye in Germany last year the only
    drink I had was a can of lager so I made do with that.
    I'll rely on kicking inanimate objects.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 16, 2011
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  11. That's just taking the piss.
     
    The Older Gentleman, Jan 16, 2011
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  12. I can remember, as a child, trying to thaw the water suppy to a trough
    for the cattle (with my father and brother) by using the same method.
     
    stephen.packer, Jan 16, 2011
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  13. You can still get'em as greenhouse heaters.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 16, 2011
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  14. stephen.packer

    Lozzo Guest

    We just drain as much water as possible water out of Danny's every
    autumn

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    BMW E46 318iSE (it's a car, not one of those 2-wheeled pieces of shite
    they churn out)
     
    Lozzo, Jan 16, 2011
    #34
  15. My brother, who runs a Ski buisiness in the French Alps used to do
    just that......

    http://www.flickr.com/photos/speedgazebo/5360258819/
     
    Speedgazebo MOTP #1, Jan 16, 2011
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  16. The Older Gentleman, Jan 16, 2011
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  17. stephen.packer

    Jérémy Guest

    (The Older Gentleman) wrote in
    I don't think they can have been that uncommon. My father had a paraffin
    heater to put under the engine of our Minor Traveller when I was a kid in
    the '60s in the Yorkshire dales.
     
    Jérémy, Jan 16, 2011
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  18. stephen.packer

    Colin Irvine Guest

    Which?
     
    Colin Irvine, Jan 16, 2011
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  19. stephen.packer

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    snip>
    I can't get a higher CCA battery to fit the Tenere because it's got a
    welded frame brace stopping me fitting a taller battery even though
    I'd be happy to cut a piece out of the seat bottom. This is a bastard.

    I'm running 10W40 fully synthetic for much the same reasons you state
    above.

    I've got fork gaiters fitted and the entire bike is coated with ACF50
    so it might survive in reasonably good shape. Apart from crash damage.

    I'm using tyres designed for low temperature use so they should remain
    as soft as they started out but that's not actually very soft..

    The antifreeze is new stuff rated down to -35c by Yamaha.

    I've got a Scottoiler fitted with 'something different' in the
    reservoir because normal Scottoil stops flowing at about -2c according
    to Scottoil.

    I'll be warming the bike on the stand because it's a good excuse for
    another smoke if nothing else.
    It's made me pretty confident I've covered everything.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 16, 2011
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  20. No, that's a magazine.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 16, 2011
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