I think the dry cleaner was for the suit you left at work but I could be you could be wrong... quoting prawn The kindness is a distinct reduction in ironing.
I found chucking the bike about in traffic caused a slight increase in perspiration resulting in greater *natural* odours, also the collar of the shirt made the neck area tighter and less comfy. -- Martin: "For a minute there, you bored me to death." VTR1000 Firestorm TDR250 http://ukrm.net/BIKES/Yamaha/tdr250.html martin dot smith nine zero three at ntlworld dot com
Depends what you want from life. I'd take a lot less pay and wear what I want than have to wear "business dress" and hate what i'm wearing
Been doing this kind of commute for several years/companies/dress codes, even when I had the company car (those who commute through Reading/Basingstoke will understand why ). The regulars here have covered most of it - leave what you can at work (maybe take it in Monday, home Friday for weekend cleaning) and get changed there. As for shirts under leathers, depends on how leaky/smelly you are. During the summer I stood no chance of wearing a shirt on the bike _and_ still be a nice person to know by midday. During the winter I can get away with it but a shirt provides FA insulation, so I'm in thermals anyway. So take them with you. A nice company might have/buy you a locker for storage of stuff like shirts (if they do it for the cyclists then you should also qualify for one). But my one big piece of advice is invest in one of those Eagle Creek crease-saver shirt wrap travel doobreywotsitthingies. Pricey, but they work, and they pack your shirt into a nice rucksackable size. Finally, but possibly overkill, it _is_ possible to fit a small suit carrier on the back of a bike with enough bungees....(just don't ask). HTH Chris
I've actually chosen a job where everyone is in shirt/trousers whether they're client facing or not. This is a complete change for me as everywhere else I've worked has been t-shirt/jeans for the same job. I've noticed that this lot are a damn-sight more professional about their work. Whether that's caused by the dress or reflected by it, I don't know.
For a lot more pay I'd gladly go into work every day in a chicken costume, or as a clown, the backend of a pantomime horse, whatever.
I was at the Warwick manor the other day and saw Santa. I don't think he was getting paid as much as you, mind.
Bear wrote When I haven't been desperate, I have been very fussy about who I work for and I have had some fabulous jobs working with really nice people over the years. I have always been of the opinion that I keep the good gear for the weekends and spends as little as I can on work clothes. Stay Press shirt and trousers suits both me and the overly opinioned. I do campaign against the use of ties though. Spawn of the devil they are and should be banned by international agreement. Not ones with Homer Simpson on though.
Bear wrote It is a part of the attitude of the employer and I want to work for anybody who thinks I am a **** because I don't dress in a way that suits them. And a sort of throwback to the philosophical aspects of The Big Revolution that we had way back when I was young and impressionable. Hair and all that shit. Frinstance. I wear a 'tache. I have done so since I was 20 and was advised by a burd that the slight drooping of one side of my mouth[1] and the tendency to drool[2] could be mitigated a bit by a 'tache. I don't see why I shouldn't work for EDS because of this and so haven't. My choice not his, he never got the fucking chance, nor will he. His loss. Three piece. You can look the part and still be in shirtsleeves and get away with no tie much easier. Also much cooler in unaircon or if you have to nip out for a fag and warmer in the computer room. [1] some childhood disease. Possibly a relative of Bells Palsy or summat. I am no expert. [2] Wimmin have that effect on me. Always have and always will.
Sometime around Mon, 03 Jan 2005 19:07:18 +0300, Ben Blaney babbled on about: I must admit the the type of people I would be working with influenced me along with the money and location.
Sometime around Mon, 03 Jan 2005 17:22:44 +0000, Ben babbled on about: One of the problems with IT people is they think casual is flip-flops, raggedy cords and a faded beer festival T shirt. This type of attire tends to cause people to either: A. Form an immediate and usually unfavourable opinion, or B. Assume they are developers and usher them to a darkened room. I favour smart jeans and heavy white shirts as they are easy to transport on a 'bike and still look smart. I had many years of working in a suit only environment so I was pleased to find that my present company had an informal view on atttire. I work for a Norwegian company and I am judged on my performance and ability, and not on a label inside my jacket. sadly my role is more and more sales orientated so my days of T shirts may be limited.
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<gasped, open eyed and jaw dropped> You have other out of work clothes? Blimey, apart from one pair of blue jeans all my clothes are bike gear or are T-Shirts with bike related stuff on them. Sounds positively spoilt for choice! This is something I've *never* done. I've never worn a suit in my life and haven't worn a tie since I left school. <thinks about employment record> Hmm...
Go along to your local Hein Gericke shoppe wearing your work togs and buy Goretex stuff that fits over the top without creasing said togs. Swot I do - 50 mile (45 minute) commute each way. No problems wearing suit and tie under the bike togs at all. Just leave a pair of shoes in the office to replace the bike boots when I get there. A lot less faffing about and more time saved as I'm not pissing about getting changed.
They would certainly be outlawed in the workplace by the Health and Safety nazis if they were a modern youth fashion accessory rather than a 'traditional' item. What is one of the most absurd items of dress? The clip-on tie. -- ColonelTupperware, spouting bollocks on Usenet since 1997 Usenet FAQ at http://www.its.caltech.edu/its/services/internetapps/news/news2.shtml UPCE FAQ at http://upce.org.uk/ UKRM FAQ at http://www.ukrm.net/faq/