Compact digital cameraisti - Canon G10 or Nikon P6000?

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by Simon Wilson, May 31, 2009.

  1. Simon Wilson

    CT Guest

    I tend to use the auto-bracketing feature on my Panny which usually
    gives a decent result from one of the images. I just have to remember
    to delete the ones I don't want as it's a sure fire way of filling up a
    memory card in short order.
     
    CT, Jun 2, 2009
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  2. Simon Wilson

    CT Guest

    My old Canon A75 had complete manual controls and was definitely a
    compact. Canon must still do one (as I suspect do other mfrs) but I'm
    not sure what the equiavalent model is.
     
    CT, Jun 2, 2009
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  3. Simon Wilson

    Ace Guest

    True, but I did spend some time trying to go over the basics with V&Ma
    couple of years back - he has a proper DSLR - a Canon, IIRC.
     
    Ace, Jun 2, 2009
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  4. Simon Wilson

    Ace Guest

    Indeed. Mine's an A80 (about 5 years old), IIRC, and yes, it has all
    of the metering and settings that I was used to on a decent SLR in the
    old days, including Auto, with Speed or Aperture priority if desired,
    Program with 2 memories, preset portrait, landscape and sports modes
    and full auto control, with on-screen metering.

    And yes, it's certainly what I would call a 'Compact'. Maybe this
    'bridge' idea would now encompass that sort of thing, if compacts have
    got smaller since then?
     
    Ace, Jun 2, 2009
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  5. Simon Wilson

    ginge Guest

    I don't really see much point in full auto, given Apperture Priority
    gives perfectly exposed pictures but just that little bit more control
    over depth of field without taking any longer to use. Probably the
    best stepping stone to using fully manual too.
     
    ginge, Jun 2, 2009
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  6. Simon Wilson

    Eddie Guest

    (I'm missing something here, and freely admit that I've never spent
    enough time playing with my camera to use anything other than the
    fully-auto or landscape-, portrait-, sports- and night-specific modes.)

    If you're using Aperture Priority mode, you set the aperture and the
    camera works out the shutter speed, yes? So that *must* take longer to
    use than fully-auto, as you've got to fiddle to get the aperture setting
    you want.
     
    Eddie, Jun 2, 2009
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  7. Simon Wilson

    ginge Guest

    With my canon it takes no longer than using a scroll wheel on a mouse,
    as the wheel on the camera sets the apperture.. Generally when I'm
    thinking about how to frame a shot I'm also considering whether I'm
    trying to capture something fast moving or with a narrow depth of
    field and need a large apperture, or if I want a large depth of field
    and need a small one, sure it might add half a second or so to the
    process, but it's really not significant.

    All that information is shown in the viewfinder too, so it's not like
    I have to fiddle pressing lots of buttons.
     
    ginge, Jun 2, 2009
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  8. Simon Wilson

    Simes Guest

    Whilst you speak da troof, you are missing one important feature - on
    Canon's at least, the auto modes only save a JPEG - if you want RAW for
    further processing, you have to use one of the manual settings.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
    #28
  9. Simon Wilson

    Simes Guest

    I do say that the auto settings (Fully Auto, Sports etc etc) do a good
    job - the limitation is that the pic is only saved as a lossy JPEG, with
    a RAW image there is the opportunity to salvage details lost on a JPEG.

    All depends - I will use one of the auto modes if I only want a few
    snapshots, and a manual mode for something I want to put a bit more
    thought and effort into.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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  10. Simon Wilson

    Simes Guest

    Full auto is handy for quick snapshots of stuff (inanely grinning family
    etc) and will even sort out the inbuilt flash for you.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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  11. Simon Wilson

    Switters Guest

    Blimey, I wonder if my Nikon does that.
     
    Switters, Jun 2, 2009
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  12. Simon Wilson

    Simes Guest

    I don't know...

    Worth remembering that Nikon has a particular RAW mode (is it NEF?) that
    still adds a little compression to the saved file.

    Biggest advantage of RAW (IMHO) is the ability to sort out the correct
    white balance later - try that with a JPEG and it leads to much gnashing
    of teeth and misery.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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  13. Simon Wilson

    Ace Guest

    This is Blaney we're talking about, don't forget.
     
    Ace, Jun 2, 2009
    #33
  14. Simon Wilson

    Simes Guest

    Are you suggesting that for a very intelligent guy, he's not too bright?
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
    #34
  15. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Ace

    Troo.

    The sort of photography he's into, he's probably more concerned about
    the camera being lube-proof.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 2, 2009
    #35
  16. Simon Wilson

    Switters Guest

    Yes, NEF. Anyway, if I remember, I'll check it out this evening, as I've
    got some pics to process from the weekend anyway.
     
    Switters, Jun 2, 2009
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  17. Simon Wilson

    Simes Guest

    <waits by computer all excited>
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
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  18. Simon Wilson

    Champ Guest

    Eh? My Pentax saves RAW (if I've set it to) whatever mode the picture
    is taken in.
     
    Champ, Jun 2, 2009
    #38
  19. Simon Wilson

    Simes Guest

    Canon's don't - not when in the dummy modes. I don't think the Nikon's
    do either. I admit it's a failing, but I suppose they assume if you
    can't set up a picture properly then you won't need raw.
     
    Simes, Jun 2, 2009
    #39
  20. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Simes
    Minoltas (now Sonys) do.

    --
    Wicked Uncle Nigel - "He's hopeless, but he's honest"

    I have already made the greatest contribution to the fight against climate
    change that I can make: I have decided not to breed. Now quit bugging me and
    go and talk to the Catholics.
     
    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jun 2, 2009
    #40
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