Couple of points

Point conceded.
LC.

 

I'm Hammo and so's my wife.
LC.

 

Wow, spooky fans, wanting to parallel monty and all his pythons......

 

just the usual
350kicketc

 

There's 'drive' or 'motivation' and then there's ability to do something
about it.

There is simply no desire to do anything. To commit suicide would be
doing something active about it, and the motivation simply isn't there.

When it IS there, simply cutting a vein or putting your finger in a
light socket doesn't cut it. There's a right way and a wrong way to do
any of those things. Do it 'wrong' and you end up not succeeding.

When you're not thinking rationally, you've got more of a chance of
doing it 'wrong'.

 

IK did it

 

Only about 1%

99% was down to Knobdribble's campaign to convince others to ostracise
me and the number of arseholes who gleefully jumped on board that
bandwagon.

Knobdribble wins.


=================

Onya bike

Gerry

 

I'll have to take your word for it because I can't imagine a situation
where a person could have sufficient drive to make a genuine attempt but
not enough to actually succeed.
LC.

 

Really? Drop me an email and I can you tell you about a few.

 

Why not here?
I've plenty of stories of the badly executed (for want of a better
word) firearm attempts but I'd still consider that rare enough to be
"extraordinary".
Can you give me some other scenarios where a person is genuinely
attempting to end their his/her but is unable?
Zebee knows but she's not telling.
LC.

 

In aus.motorcycles on Wed, 23 Sep 2009 19:43:57 -0700 (PDT)

Not my job to prove anything to you. Especially as you have said
yourself that you know of "plenty" but you apparently don't think
that's enough.

So lay out your exact criteria for being convinced and someone might
indulge you.

I won't, because I don't think you are genuine at all, as in wanting
to understand.

Zebee

 

But if you count a 25M embankment as a cliff and you're one particular
18yo in a 2007 M5, then you don't *need* the Bellett. All you have to do
is drive very fast down a runway with a car full of mates and sadly, there
you go.
http://fat.ly/907i2

 

Bollocks! Members of neither sex ever succeed more than once (pedant hat
off).

 

It might be a plan that minimises the possibility of your insurer failing
to pay up on the grounds of suicide, especially if you have children.

"Let's face it", says the assessor to the claims manager whilst down at
the pub, "who's going to make a suicide attempt in a *Volvo*"?

 

tsk tsk tsk can I quote you back at yourself.. the plural of anecdote is
not data.

Nev..
'08 DL1000K8

 

In aus.motorcycles on Thu, 24 Sep 2009 17:43:01 +1000

Indeed. But then again he asked for anecdotes not data.

(IT's also pretty well impossible to do anything *but* anecdotes in
the mental health sphere, there's no way to do blinded trials)

You can however state how many you'd accept as evidence, as clearly the
"plenty" wasn't enough, but a "scenario" might be. I dunno we are
talking carefully thought out conceptions here.


Zebee

 

There is ample documented and peer reviewed evidence out there. If you were
motivated to find out, it would not be an onerous task to succeed.

 

*Snap* I don't think you're genuine either, as in knowing why people try
and fail.
I think you just just jumped in and made a hysterical wanker of yourself
and you're feeling a little bit sheepish now.

Oh, and if anyone cares; "I've plenty of stories" above, should've read
"I've HEARD plenty of stories". (Finger/brain communication problem)
LC.

 

Seemingly impossible to get here though!
Oh well; in the absence of any evidence to the contrary I guess I'll
have to stick to my original hypothesis.
LC

 

The offer is always open.