Crash barriers

I read an article in ARR several weeks ago about motorcycle-friendly
barrier being tested in SA. Apparently it's on The Gorge Rd around
the Kangaroo Creek Reservoir. It's not on street view yet.

I've just got around to looking at the product web site (http://
www.basyc.com.au/ -- still under construction ATM but it still has
interesting stuff on there) ...and I notice it's made by our "new best
friend" BRIFEN!

At the bottom of the page it says "Basyc is distributed exclusively in
Australia and New Zealand by LB International Pty Ltd (BRIFEN
Australia)". "LB International Pty Ltd" is a clickable-link.

I'm having great difficulty uncovering anything useful about Cegasa,
or where this product actually comes from. Cegasa appear to make
batteries, torches, rubber gloves and small domestic appliances &
household items. "Basyc" does not appear in anyone's product
catalogue.

 

That's an interesting PDF file there. I'd prefer to hit that than a post
any day (though obviously I'd prefer not to hit any )

 

Interesting that it can be retrofitted to Armco barriers but is owned
by Brifen, not Armco! Why would Brifen want to control that?

Are Brifen just hedging their bets by supplying stuff for the
competition incase WRB suffers a downturn?
Could this make Armco a more expensive option compared to Brifen after
retrofitting?
Maybe it won't work after a lot of realistic trying.

 

Guess I might take a little run with the camera tomorrow in the interests of
science Seeing I missed out today because I had unexpected visitors
that screwed up my work schedule.

Yes, I know riding should come before work, but you have to pay for the
petrol.


Cheers

 

Buggered if that link worked.

Here it is again without the corrupting space/hyphen combination.

http://www.basyc.com.au/

 

I wouldn't be holding my breath about that being rolled out. Don't forget
that politicians are the ones sitting in the back of their limousine stuck
in traffic, thinking "that arsehole on the bike's cutting through, I'd
better legislate against that!"

The same company that brought us the cheesecutter barrier? It's all about
money, never forget that - humans can't have corporates as "best friends."

 

Don't know about useful, but...

http://picasaweb.google.com/cegasaproteccion/CEGASABASYCARAGONHuescaN330

Looks a hell of a lot uglier and messier than in the demo videos... And I'm
having a hell of a hard time envisaging how big the rivet gun would have to
be to pop those retaining rivets!

http://www.esafetysupport.org/en/esafety_activities/esafety_awards/cegasa_internacional.htm

They received an award for it, apparently.

Company information (though ridiculously scant) here...

http://www.intertraffic.com/marketplace/mypage/information.asp?mypageid=2280

Click on "Brands" and you'll get "CEGASA-BASYC." The company appears to be
an OEM manufacturer of the other stuff you've found, and the only "branded"
product they have is this BASYC stuff.

 

Ah... someone who understands what Joel Bakan was saying.

Cognicom?

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Onya bike

Gerry

 

The "rivets" appear to me, to be a washer held in by a three pointed
security screw
or maybe a phillips head, it is a bit rusty to get a better look

 

Thanks Bob, I'll check these now.

 

Also found this: it was installed in SA on 26/01/2011 source:
http://blogs.abc.net.au/sa/2011/01/....html?site=adelaide&program=adelaide_mornings

 

"David Robley" wrote in message

dr Guess I might take a little run with the camera tomorrow in the interests
of
dr science Seeing I missed out today because I had unexpected visitors
dr that screwed up my work schedule.

dr Yes, I know riding should come before work, but you have to pay for the
dr petrol.

---

been up their several times

didn't have the opportunity for an up close examination
but it appears to have been installed on armco and cheese cutter type
barriers
and judging by the appearance of several stretches which appeared to have
been 'tested'
it's going to be a high maintenance item ...

bjt

 

I can't believe any barrier is motorcycle friendly
if it impedes progress it is gonna do damage

 

Here you go - http://robley.net.au/bmw/armco.html

A couple of spots I noticed were damaged - as though they had been cut. I
imagine the maintenance might not be too bad, if it is practical to simply
cut out a damaged piece and screw a patch section in its place. Assuming of
course no (significant) damage to the Armco itself.

I didn't notice any on cheese cutter barriers; in fact I didn't notice any
cheese cutter barriers along there at all. This may have been because I was
attentive to where I was going



Cheers

 

I suspect it's not installed right .. pic 32, they've cut away the
plastic shieldy stuff, so you can have unfettered access to the kerb
under it, and the way the ends are done, doesn't look right. In the
initial PDF the entire sheet is taut for the entire length (admittedly
you can't see any ends for comparison) but the version photographed
above (pic 32 again) has a really loose look to it.

 

Yeah, that makes sense in a world where barriers are the only thing you
might hit and aren't there to stop you hitting other stuff. Often those
barriers stop you from hitting a tree or a cliff face.

Nev..

 

Are they? How much legislation has been introduced in Australia to stop
lanesplitting?

Nev..

 

Just looked at the crash test dummy videos from the basyc site (http://
www.basyc.com.au/) and I think you might break your neck if you slide
headfirst. If you come off near basyc, try to slide feet first ;-)
and all will be well.

 

Sure, just how much time do you think you are going to get from realising
that you are going to go down, to the time you hit some sort of barrier,
tree, car or whatever

"Oh, dear me, I have hit the ground, now what was that he said?, feet first,
that's the way "

By the time you would have got the "Oh dear" out, you would have already
attached yourself to the immovable object

 

The three majors I have had all went badly , two of them feet first the
other just plain hurt and ripped a clavicle loose , I did feek that one
instantly and even with the slowing of relative time reactions were
pretty much a forgone
The last minor was a slide on the jackets back and onto the feet again ,
just plain annoying as I explained to the dick who caused it as I
bounced on his bonnet