Crash caught on video

Helmet cam, Feb 10th 2006:

http://www.ridebehindvideos.com/videos/Accident20060210.wmv

 

And i bet the biker still gets the blame

 

I think she did rather well in so much as she steered the bike into the
gap she had - the fact the gap closed was a bit unfortunate obviously.

Certainly if I faced the same situation I think I'd end up in exactly
the same place.


What scared me was the bystanders. "Lie down, take your helmet off" etc.

Eek!

 

Nice tits.

Si

 

And even after being twatted by the car he still has the presence of mind to
get a closeup down the cleavage of one of the people who came to help

 

It's a she isn't it? Fucking lesbo.

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I still can't quite figure why the car braked and swerved like that.
Rear wheel or brake siezing perhaps?

 

Dunno , I had the sound off.

 

On a recent training course we were advised to take motorcyclists helmets
off if they were involved in an accident
something i thought highly questionable

 

I suppose it's a judgement call. If the wearer is waving his head
around, pupils not dilated then it's possible to take off most helmets
without wrenching the upper verts.
OTOH there needs to be some particular reason for removing it also.

 

It all depends on *how* you take the helmet off. Yanking and pulling
is generally considered not good for a potentially injured spine.

Using an angle grinder OTOH ...

 

Roughly about what i said to the trainer

 

Pulling the helmet whilst supporting the head was the preferred method ,
apparently stretching the spinal chord is acceptable trapping or crushing is
not
not a call i would like to make

 

Not really questionable, just not right in all situations. However, if
you have an unconscious casualty with a helmet on, you're not going to
be able to check his airways and monitor his breathing if his mouth is
covered up by a full-face helmet. So cautious helmet removal, trying
to avoid any movement of the neck and then ensuring that the head is
held, or propped, in the same position, would be the order of the day.

If it's a choice between risking spinal damage (and managing that risk
as best you can) or letting someone choke to death on their own vomit
it's not hard to understand.

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Well yes, but that assumes the person trying to take it off has some
level of competence and awareness of the damage removing the helmet may
have.

I would hazard that unless it's a paramedic (and even then) you're on
dodgy ground if you assume that is a given.

I would guess most people "trying to be helpful" would try to get the
helmet off irrespective of symptoms actually displayed.

 

No, all it assumes is that said person has some understanding of the
damage that may be caused by leaving it on.

Sorry, once again in English please? Who, exactly, is on dodgy ground,
and why?

Well yes, that's quite likely. Your point is?

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If someone was making that choice for me I know which I would prefer.

 

Interesting. And which course was this and arranged by whom?

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There is a method of removing a helmet from a riders head [1], but
ideally it does need 2 people to minimise the risk of further injury.
Obviously the decision to remove a helmet would only be taken in the
instance of the rider not breathing in order to administer the correct
aid.

[1] Lancashire Ambulance Service include this hands-on experience as
part of their bike first aid course, and this has also been taught to
most (if not all, by now) marshalls for the TT and MGP.

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Wow. From a pleasant bimble to a bit of a shitter in less than five
seconds.

The seemingly useless yet perfectly reasonable gesture she makes
towards her bike at 55 seconds just makes the video for me - it's as
if the words just weren't ready to be formed yet.