Crutch nut.

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by eric the brave, Nov 5, 2005.

  1. I've found distribution board ones failed in the 'on' position. Dodgy as
    ****, given that they were protecting sockets [1] and in one case an
    electrick shower.

    [1]One of those houses had a diy-installed downstairs shower that had
    never worked; the idiot had installed a mains-pressure shower and fed it
    from a tank in the loft. The low-pressure switch had prevented the
    shower from operating. Just as well, really, since the clown who
    installed it had used 2.5mm cable to carry 40 Amps.

    Lovely. A house fire just waiting to happen.

    --

    Dave

    GS850 x2 XS650SE / SE 6a

    I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 6, 2005
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  2. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    Bugger. We don't use those too often here, they are usually built into
    the plugs. The code now requires an Arc Fault Interrupt protect all
    bedroom plugs. These are able to detect an arc either in the wiring or
    plugs and trip the circuit. It's more for fire than sticking a finger in
    the socket.
    We do wire size by gage here, 40 amps would be 8 AWG copper. But as you
    said 'clown' I take it the wire was too small by more than one size. I
    should post some of my pictures of 'things we have found'. Frightening
    it is sometimes.
    Yep, seen that too.
     
    muddy, Nov 7, 2005
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  3. eric the brave

    DR Guest

     
    DR, Nov 7, 2005
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  4. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    I know that. 20,000 volts an a few uA will give you a start. 20,000
    volts at 100 A and you'll be a burnt cinder.
     
    muddy, Nov 7, 2005
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  5. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

     
    muddy, Nov 7, 2005
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  6. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    There may be some resistance to it.
     
    muddy, Nov 7, 2005
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  7. eric the brave

    deadmail Guest

    Yes, but since the current would flow according to the voltage applied
    and the resistance of the body (assuming plenty of supply) there would
    be less current flowing with 110v than there would be with 240v.
     
    deadmail, Nov 7, 2005
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  8. eric the brave

    antonye Guest

    Probably a tab washer and the bolts holding the drum in place, if it's
    anything like the Ducati. I've never bothered replacing the drum nuts,
    just made sure they were cleaned, checked and Loctite'd back in
    place. It hasn't fallen apart ... yet.
     
    antonye, Nov 7, 2005
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  9. eric the brave

    Eiron Guest

     
    Eiron, Nov 7, 2005
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  10. It was an 8.5kW shower which nominally would draw 36A - normally 6 sq mm
    csa would do that, but given the length of run, 10 sq mm csa cable would
    have ideally been the thing. 2.5 sq mm csa was taking the piss.

    --

    Dave

    GS850 x2 XS650SE / SE 6a

    I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 7, 2005
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  11. Cool. Oh, may I veer?

    --

    Dave

    GS850 x2 XS650SE / SE 6a

    I demand nothing of you except that you amuse me.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Nov 7, 2005
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  12. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    <shakes head>
     
    muddy, Nov 7, 2005
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  13. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    Understood (now anyway). I simply cannot do maths in my head, I have to
    get pencil and paper and work it out.
     
    muddy, Nov 7, 2005
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  14. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    Oops, eh?

    I do know a 1" spanner dropped across phases will pop the fuses on the
    pole thus taking out an entire neighborhood. It also makes lots of
    sparks. And, no it wasn't me, it was my boss.
     
    muddy, Nov 7, 2005
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  15. eric the brave

    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Apparently so but I think a lower voltage must aid your chances.
    Obviously I know next to **** all about electrickery but I had to do a
    'basic' course covering safety in the workplace a few years ago and it
    included small bits about power tools.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Nov 7, 2005
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    Pip Guest

    A 3/4"AF spanner dropped across the terminals of a truck battery makes
    sparks ... and a whooshing noise as the spanner makes a rapid vertical
    escape ... then a significant clanging noise as it lands on the car
    across the road, still glowing with the heat of re-entry.

    No further use as a spanner, more as a model for pretzels.
     
    Pip, Nov 8, 2005
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  17. eric the brave

    Pip Guest

    I was uncomfortably adjacent, playing a bit part as a temporary
    stand-in casual cab prop ... and spanner holder. Rumbled!
     
    Pip, Nov 8, 2005
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  18. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    I saw that trick done once too. Was it a 24 VDC battery?
     
    muddy, Nov 8, 2005
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  19. eric the brave

    muddy Guest

    Uck.
     
    muddy, Nov 8, 2005
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