Cryptic

A touch of UKRM about today's Everyman crossword in the Observer:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/crosswords/everyman/3363

4A Way in which ginger's used? (3,4)
24A Clothes got grey, unfortunately (7)

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Tit ****

Spunked

 

Easy peasy
Fig ging

 

Nige? Is that you?

 

Christ, it must be tough if you can't get it.

 

I don't know about cryptic, but the solution to
the Countdown Conundrum that my 9yo daughter got
from the iPad was, to say the least, interesting:
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=6586893&l=b7c0c2788e&id=568197354

 

So much easier in the morning.

Cat Flap and Toggery.

 

Yep.


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KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".

 

+1.

I get the 'way in' but not the ginger reference.
And how 'clothes' means 'anagram' I haven't the foggiest ..

Paul.

 

A variety of vermin known as a Ginger Tom.

Me neither but then again I don't do crosswords so don't know the rules.

 

Once the solutions were posted here, I could sort of see how the clues
worked, but I can never get them.

After a fair bit of thought: "Way in, which ginger [cat]'s used" I
guess.

Toggery is an angram of ''got grey', but I can't see what the
indicator for an angram is in the clue, if there is one.

 

Clothes = togs, I don't *think* it's the indicator, so maybe it's
'unfortunately', or it just relies on the reader being rather cleverer
than me...

 

"unfortunately" is the indicator that it's an anagram.

"got grey" = toggery. Solving cryptic crossword clues is mostly a case
of learning the language. After all, the answer is staring you in the
face, you just have to know how to read it.

 

<Examines hair roots>

 

It's just bollocks really though, isn't it.

I mean, I hate the Countdown conundrum as well, so it's not limited to
the Cryptic x-word ...

Paul.

 

Well, the first one relies on misleading parsing; it's not (the) way,
in which ginger is used, it's (the) way in, which ginger has used. I.e.
an entrance (way in) used by a ginger (cat!) -> cat flap.

In the second one, the anagram indicator is "unfortunately"; the
enumeration gives it away a bit, the only way to get seven characters is from
"got grey" which, unfortunately (i.e. scrambled) gives TOGGERY -- clothes.

And of course my original point was the juxtaposition of
Ginger and TOG in the one puzzle.

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Brunel University. Ivan.Reid@[brunel.ac.uk|cern.ch] Room 40-1-B12, CERN
GSX600F, RG250WD "You Porsche. Me pass!" DoD #484 JKLO#003, 005
WP7# 3000 LC Unit #2368 (tinlc) UKMC#00009 BOTAFOT#16 UKRMMA#7 (Hon)
KotPT -- "for stupidity above and beyond the call of duty".