dangerous and culpable driving

So was he found guilty of culpable driving or not...

Which of my assertions were vague? And how do you intend to prove
that my vagueness was deliberate? Come on, paul, don't make
deliberately vague assertions...


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Pregnancy can be expressed in simple boolean terms, blame generally can't.

Theo

 

Nah, you're just fucked, like your argument.

Theo

 

Most of them.

Theo

 

You have a 2.5L chookie?

Theo

 

If I drive in manner dangerous to another person and have an impact with
that person and they die, under the NSW Crimes Act I am liable for 10
years imprisonment. If I drive negligently and I have an impact with
another person and they die, under the NSW Road Transport (Safety And
Traffic Management) Act I am liable for 18 months imprisonment.

The first is a criminal code, the second isn't. The first has harsher
penalties. Otherwise, what is the difference?

 

For someone who has a pretty clear view on what punishment this bloke
should have got, you don't seem to be familiar with many of the facts..
like the charges and verdicts... duh.

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

Ok, so I got a bit over excited with the zeroes...

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Any more fucked than your argument that the cost of something is a
reliable guide to the size of its carbon footprint, Theo?

Second water tank's now connected, btw.

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Just checking that HE knew the facts, given that he was being so
vague...


Onya bike...

Gerry

 

Well for Christ's sake stop riding that bloody big trailbike...

 

I wasn't commenting on how the system works. I was making some
assertions which you seem to think were vague. I'll reiterate them
for you so that they will become less vague, paul:

[1] It was correct charge him with culpable driving.

[2] The issue of "intent" is bollocks with regard to [1].

[3] He should have been found guitly of culpable driving. The jury
were sucked in by defence rhetoric and the DPP ought to appeal their
verdict.

Is that too vague for you, paul, or do you understand what I'm
asserting?

Well let's just see what sort of a sentence he gets, and if it's
laughable light, we can revisis this.

That's one account. Others put his speed much higher.

Then there's the matter of having his kid in his lap.

Then there was the fact that he was warned about the possibility of
drunk teenage partygoers on the road and advised to drive carefully.

All in all, I'd say a blatant disregard for his life, his son's life,
and the lives of any partygoers who might be on the road. I'd call it
reckless. I'd call it hoonish. You can call it exemplary if you
wish. As I said - a whitewash...

Clue: When there's roos around I never travel over 80kmhs. I'd use
the same logic if I knew there was a distinct likelihood of
encountering drunken teenage party goers on the road. I consider
that common sense, and responsible driving. He was playing Russian
roulette with his life, his son's life and the lives of anyone on the
road that night. As it turned out six died, and he could easily have
killed his son and himself as well.

Speed limits don't come ito it. Given the conditions: night time,
warning of people possibly on the road, letting kiddie play "driver",
I'd say under those conditions he should have been doing 50kmh max.
Had he secured his son proplerly, I'd say 80kmh was max safe speed
till he was well and truly past the partygoer "zone".

e.g. in our street (a crescent) there are often small kids playing on
the road. I never exceed 40kmh even though the limit is 50. To do
50kmh would be , in my book, given the prevailing conditions,
dangerous and in blatant disregard of those kids' lives.

You on the other hand. appear to operate on the logic that if you hit
someone it's their fault for not getting out of your way. They had no
right to tresspass into your universe and you are not responsible for
the outcome.

No, the tag hooning fits as far as I'm concerned. As I've said, you
have along track record for being an apologist for hoons. Given you're
a hoon yourself, this is hardly surprising.

"Gooks" ??? You racist twonk.

Onya bike...

Gerry

 

And when the DPP appeal his verdict and get him convicted of culpable
driving, what charges then do you think we should bring against the
drunk teenagers on the road... and why is it that none of them been
charged with any traffic offences or offences related to underage
drinking?.. and why hasn't anyone been charged with supplying alcohol to
minors?

Nev..
'07 XB12X

 

Diogenes wrote:

I'm glad to hear it.

I can't afford to subsidise your water much longer.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

paulh wrote:

Be nice!

It's not just Gerry.

Pretty much works for all the bike riders I know, certainly including me.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

About bloody time. I suppose all this time you've been letting that precious
water run down the hill?

Theo
Beer mate?

 

We still have to pay to push the internet data up his damn hill.

Theo

 

Do we?

I always thought that the excited electrons _wanted_ to go upwards, kind
of like hot air, and it was the downhill legs that required pushing.

But I'd bow to your greater technical knowledge.

regards,
CrazyCam

 

You bloody girls blouse!


G-S

 

Now that's the smelliest red herring I've seen in a long time!


G-S