Dangerous roads

I see the list of the most dangerous roads in the UK is out again and
it's no surprise at all to see the A537 Cat and Fiddle is Numero Uno
again. Well, it is if you believe the BBC page on it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/10454356.stm

This could be, it is alleged:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/manchester/hi/people_and_places/newsid_87770
00/8777016.stm

That 'bikers' are 'drawn' to the C&F, as some sort of challenge.
Having been up and down it a few times, it is an interesting section of
road, but I would hardly describe it as a challenge. The Highways
Authority have been hard at it, making 'improvements': anti-skid
surfacing, road markings and barriers ... and Police helicopter
surveillance at weekends and now, average speed cameras.

All this time, effort and money - and it is still the most dangerous
road in Britain. Perhaps it is time for the powers-that-be to write it
off and recognise that people of a certain mindset will hoon a road if
they want to, and if they get it wrong, then things will get messy -
but only for the hooner. There's no pedestrians on that road (that
I've ever seen) and very few houses: so the only things at risk are
sheep and walls and the odd motorcyclist.

One item of concern, however: if the figures for motorcyclist are
removed from the stats, then the top ten roads all disappear and the
most dangerous road title falls to a section of the A18 SW of Grimsby
which appears to be almost completely straight and flat, with three 90
degree corners at its Southern extremity. Quirkily, this section is
not covered by Streetview - perhaps they've censored the trees
festooned with blood and guts.

 

Perhaps it suffers from being right next to a few big cities full of
weekend bikers.

 

You haven't quite got the hang of this yet.
One trades the wife in for a newer model, not the car/bike/other toys

 

Personally, its more of a case of it being the the 1st and easiest
crossing point over the tops for some trips (ie *OSMs)

 

Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, Hog

Any more than you have of snipping, FFS.

 

We don't impose any real standard of ability or even an eyesight test so the
roads need to be idiot proof

 

Slightly annoyingly the Chesterfield to Stockport route that I've taken
twice this week on the XJ isn't featured. Would be quite nice but for
some reason there seems to be quite a lot of HGV traffic, and rather
than open roads meeting the odd car it tends to be overtaking queues
when there's room and then a blast for a couple of miles before hitting
the next lot.

Apart from about 100 yards it's all 50mph as well :-( Thank **** there
are no speed cameras (yet) on the new 4 lane stretch of the M1.

 

Might as well be 2 lanes given the fucking cumdrinking spastics that
dont move over. Never seen a gantry camera yet btw, as they need to be
yellow by law.

 

You need to have a good look at a map because you'll find quite a few
narrow little B roads that cut corners out of the Chesterfield to
Stockport ride and avoid the yorkie munchers.

 

Which way is that?

When I was regularly doing that run about erm 8 yrs ago the A623 used
to be my route of choice.

 

And mine, lovely bit of road on a bike. I mainly did it in a Renault
Master or Merc Vito though

 

Not any more, they don't.

 

Not for about 18 months IIRC.

 

A619 out of Chesterfield, A623 from Baslow and then join the A6 into
Stockport.

 

Same then. Never used to be any 50 sections on that road, and I love
the bit in the middle where it goes really three dimensional with that
twisty section going into a dip.

 

I know I'm following up the wrong person but IDGAF.

There's a load of gantry average speed cameras which are hidden behind
the signs on the M6 Toll where the M42 joins.
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"New speed limit 50MPH, it's there for a reason" signs every couple of
miles. No fixed cameras outside of Chesterfield or Stockport though.

 

Yeah, but you could be a motorcyclist minding your own business coming the
other way when a fucking prick (and the C&F is full of pricks who think
they're riding gods) fails to make it round a corner and takes you out with
him. Or you could be in a car and that means a shit load of cleaning when
you get home. Assuming the rider didn't visit you inside the car, that is.

The C&F is used like a free track day and lots of people seem to ride *just*
the C&F, hunting for that last 10th of a second between point A and point B.
They don't go anywhere else for their jollies, but they're not the shit hot
riders they think they are and now, with the average speed cams, it's got
worse as the sections between the camera's are a free for all. Even if/when
the camera's were/become fully functional, the road will still be up there
on the "danger list" because the riders will only pass one camera on the way
and the same one on the way out, so there's no average speed to record and
Plod won't be out in (as much) force because the camera's will do their job
for them.

Great if you *can* ride, but some of these cunts don't have a clue.