Dead mans throttle

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by RamRod Sword of Baal, May 4, 2008.

  1. Someone just asked me a question, and I do not know the answer.

    My Kawasaki Ninja has a dead mans throttle, IE take you hand off and it goes
    back to an idle speed.

    Many years ago I had an AJS and the throttle on that was ajustable so you
    could set it, so if you ajusted it you take your hand off and it would
    maintain the same speed, IE not go back to idle speed.

    The question poses to me was is it legal in Queensland to have a ajustment
    on your throttle so it will maintain your speed without your hand on the
    RamRod Sword of Baal, May 4, 2008
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  2. RamRod Sword of Baal

    atec77 Guest

    I expect it will be with the proviso it can be released
    aren't there adjustable throttle stop available ?
    atec77, May 4, 2008
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  3. I thought that cruise controls were all about that
    George W. Frost, May 4, 2008
  4. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Everything's legal if it's not illegal and I've never heard of
    throttle-locks being illegal.
    Many bikes used to have them as standard and there's many types available as
    after-market accessories.
    Knobdoodle, May 4, 2008
  5. RamRod Sword of Baal

    òlléy® Guest

    My recent acquired GSXR750 has one and it has to be manually turned off to
    disconnect the lock, with this setup it recently passed a Victorian (nanny
    state) RWC and was re-registered through Vic roads no worry's so cannot
    really see why it would be a problem in QLD.

    òlléy®, May 4, 2008

  6. Many thanks to those who replied.
    RamRod Sword of Baal, May 4, 2008
  7. RamRod Sword of Baal

    cremasco Guest

    As far as I know - and this is by no means certain - it is illegal to
    fit a throttle lock to a motorcycle in Queensland. It is not, however,
    illegal to fit cruise control - which is a different kettle of fish
    cremasco, May 5, 2008
  8. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Damien Guest

    Can't you just fit a throttle lock and call it 'cruise control' if
    asked? Besides, doesn't it amount to being the same thing anyway?
    Damien, May 5, 2008
  9. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Throttle "lock" is a misnomer anyway because they don't lock; just provide
    enough friction to defeat the return-spring.
    You can easily still move them with your hand.
    Knobdoodle, May 5, 2008
  10. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Damien Guest

    Sounds suspiciously like a form of cruise control to me... :)
    Damien, May 5, 2008
  11. RamRod Sword of Baal

    cremasco Guest

    Not the same thing at all. A throttle lock 'clamps' the throttle open,
    with the aid of an additional switch/lever/action which must be
    activated in order to stop it 'locking' the throttle.

    A cruise control automatically stops working when any of the following
    occurs: activating brakes, activating clutch, significantly increased
    engine revs, or gear changes. None of these actions is separate from
    what one does in the normal course of riding the machine.
    cremasco, May 5, 2008
  12. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Sheesh Peter; you're taking car-type electronic-cruise-control as your
    definition and refusing to accept bike-type friction cruise-control are you?
    Even though the friction ones are about 200 times more common on bikes than
    the electronic ones? (and have been around about 80 years longer?)
    Knobdoodle, May 6, 2008
  13. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Knobdoodle Guest

    [shrug] So you and Peter are the only TWO marching in step.
    Are there other common concepts you want to redefine too or is
    "cruise-control" the only one wanna' be Robinson Crusoe on?
    Knobdoodle, May 6, 2008
  14. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Nigel Allen Guest

    I'm with 'im.

    If it ain't got electronics in it's guts it's not a cruise control.

    Otherwise you'd have to accept my old Series II Land Rover's hand
    throttle as a "Cruise Control". (and that's just a load of bollocks).

    Back under the bridge with you now!

    Nigel Allen, May 6, 2008
  15. ^ 'wot 'e said.

    I was going to fit a cruise control to one of my cars in the late
    70s/early 80s. Problem was it was one of the first after market turbo
    cars in the state. The cruise control was an active control that
    operated off vacuum pressure to control the throttle. However, as
    turbos go into positive manifold pressure, it wouldn't have worked, so
    we didn't bother trying. Electronics in the engine? What? Never heard
    of 'em.
    </rocking chair>
    Kevin Gleeson, May 7, 2008
  16. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Else?!!? MCAs's catalogue of motorcycle cruise-controls (not one of which
    fits your and Peter's "definition") not enough for you?
    Knobdoodle, May 7, 2008
  17. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Knobdoodle Guest

    If it ain't got electronics it's not an ELECTRONIC cruise control.
    Plenty of mechanical cruise controls out there though (and I seriously doubt
    they're gonna' magically disappear just 'cause you screw up your eyes and
    say "I don't believe in them....")
    Knobdoodle, May 7, 2008
  18. RamRod Sword of Baal

    Nigel Allen Guest

    Nah - they're "throttle locks" - not "cruise controls".

    Jeez - If I called you "good looking" it doesn't mean it's so :)

    Nigel Allen, May 7, 2008
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    Yeebers Guest

    To quote another thread : ¿Qué
    Yeebers, May 7, 2008
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    Holy ****; they all suddenly evaporated!
    Knobdoodle, May 8, 2008
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