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Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SP, Jan 24, 2010.

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    SP Guest

    Is anyone on here up-to-date with employment law?

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    Lesley
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    SP, Jan 24, 2010
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    DR Guest

    SP posted:
    Oh dear, this doesn't sound good.
     
    DR, Jan 24, 2010
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    SP Guest

    It's not me who needs it, but the future actions of another employee
    could have *serious* consequences on the future of the company should
    their threats to 'under-work', shall we say, as it would affect our
    bank balance, and therfore the future of the company.

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    Lesley
    CBR600FW
    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
    BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
    BONY#54P BOB#18
    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
     
    SP, Jan 25, 2010
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    DR Guest

    SP posted:
    Sounds like a candidate for a P45, stat. Deliberately acting against
    the best interests of one's employer must surely count as gross
    misconduct, which is acceptable grounds for summary dismissal.
    Evidence is key.
     
    DR, Jan 25, 2010
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    wessie Guest

    Why didn't you say? The removing cunts dept.

    Paging darsy[1] & DanL

    [1] the ultimately autolytic approach may be a bit too extreme for you
     
    wessie, Jan 25, 2010
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    SP Guest

    I was thinking about having a chat with one of the directors about this
    tomorrow, in order to put a stop to it, but I fear that this is going
    to be one heck of a minefield.

    It also possibly means losing the trust of someone, but I think the
    interests of the company that I work for are paramount - it could
    involve a lot of job losses if the threats are carried out.

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    Lesley
    CBR600FW
    SBS#11 (with oak-leaf cluster)
    BOTAFOT#101A UKRMHRC#12
    BONY#54P BOB#18
    Real burds don't take hormones, they rage naturally
     
    SP, Jan 25, 2010
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    Dan L Guest

    I would ask myself the following:

    1. If your colleague's actions are brought to play, and chaos ensues,
    will it become apparent that you knew in advance and did nothing?
    2. If your colleague's actions result in them being hauled in front of
    the directors they will of course squeal, and implicate everyone else
    who knew about it, implying some sort of solidarity. Would this be
    good for your career?
    3. If your employer's business goes tits up, what value would the trust
    of the architect of their downfall be to you?
    4. Would a quiet word at line manager level be more appropriate than
    going to the directors?
     
    Dan L, Jan 25, 2010
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    Ben Guest

    Be sure they're actually under-working, rather than working to their
    contract.

    I've been in situations where sticking to your contracted hours has
    been regarded as under working.
     
    Ben, Jan 25, 2010
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    Andy Bonwick Guest

    Dismissing someone on those grounds would certainly end up in a court
    of law and anyone trying it needs *very* good evidence to back up
    their claim.

    Imagine how pleased they'd be if you'd given them the original nod on
    this one and it cost them a few grand in legal fees.
     
    Andy Bonwick, Jan 25, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    The legal approach IIRC would be to rate their performance as
    unacceptable, then give them written warning of a need to improve
    within a defined period, or get the boot. Throw in a monthly review
    of their work with someone in a management role, and job done, it'll
    either right itself or play out.
     
    ginge, Jan 25, 2010
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    ginge Guest

    Hasn't that been the norm for oooh about 10 or more years now?
     
    ginge, Jan 25, 2010
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    Ben Guest

    Yes. Thankfully I work for an enlightened employee who expects over
    and above contract when necessary, but is happy with under contract at
    other times.

    My brother used to work for a company who openly said your contracted
    hours are 38 a week, but we expect at least an extra hour a day. He
    left.
     
    Ben, Jan 25, 2010
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