Defeated!

Discussion in 'UK Motorcycles' started by SD, Jan 14, 2007.

  1. SD

    SD Guest

    Fitting a new air filter was uneventful, and my muse failed to arrive.
    I only had to undo six bolts, ffs. Oh, and eight screws. The old one
    looked a bit clogged - full of dead insects, and dandelion seeds.

    Emboldened, I resolved to change the plugs. First one came out okay,
    looked okay, and its replacement went in fine. The second refused to
    budge, so I troggled off to Halfords to get a new 12mm plug wrench -
    the Honda one is made of stale cheese, and deforms when any torque is
    applied to it. They had one, and I rushed off home. It was one of
    those loop handled jobbies, and while it fits snugly over the plug, it
    sits so deep into the head, the handle has to remain in line with the
    socket, and no torque can be applied.

    Bugger.

    So, until my newly ordered 12mm deep plug socket arrives, I'm stumped.
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    SD, Jan 14, 2007
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    Dentist Guest

    SD wrote;
    At the risk of preaching to those in-the-know, squirt a bit of WD40 or
    central heating oil round the tight plug and let it soak a while before
    you try again, just in case it's thinking about bringing the thread with
    it.
     
    Dentist, Jan 14, 2007
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  3. SD

    Eddie Guest

    Could you get an adjustable spanner, mole grips, or similar, on the bit
    of handle that's sticking out the top?
     
    Eddie, Jan 14, 2007
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  4. SD

    SD Guest

    Even sticking a 19mm spanner through the loop didn't help - the open
    end of the loop kept threatening to ping out of the holes.
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    SD, Jan 14, 2007
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  5. SD

    Pete Fisher Guest

    Plug not put in with a smidgen of copper or graphite grease on the
    threads then?


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    Pete Fisher, Jan 14, 2007
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  6. SD

    SD Guest

    Ahbut, yes it was. To the correct torque, too.
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    SD, Jan 14, 2007
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  7. Using the patented Mavis Beacon "Hunt&Peck" Technique, SD
    On a greased thread?

    You've over-tightened that then. It's fucked mate.

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    Wicked Uncle Nigel, Jan 14, 2007
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  8. SD

    Pete Fisher Guest

    I never use a torque wrench on plugs. This is a) because without taking
    the tank off that would be impossible on the Nordie or the Morini (Voxan
    plugs - don't ask), and b) because when doing a plug chop or two in a
    lay ICBA. I therefore use a tiny bit of copper grease and 'nip' the plug
    up with a tube spanner. For the Nordie I have a nice long one with a hex
    shaped solid bit at the top [1] that protrudes far enough that you can
    get a 13mm open ended spanner on. For the Morini a straight box spanner
    and a small tommy bar does the same thing.

    Never had a plug come loose or seize.

    [1] liberated from SWMBo's CB250 IIRC.


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  9. SD

    SD Guest

    Nice try, and I know what you mean. There was a tiny, tiny, smidge of
    grease on there.

    How is it, when you want to order a single socket, for three and a
    half quid, that somehow you manage to get free P&P on an order
    totalling over £53?
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    SD, Jan 14, 2007
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  10. SD wrote
    I dunno how but I do know such things are not necessarily confined to
    motorcycle accessories, unless 45 quid for a set of new strings for me
    Banjolele and some other stuff I *really* need will make me ride any
    better.
     
    steve auvache, Jan 14, 2007
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  11. SD

    Timo Geusch Guest

    I'm glad I'm not to only one who manages that.
     
    Timo Geusch, Jan 15, 2007
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  12. It's that "really need" bit that's fatal. My gaff is stuffed with
    bitsnbobs I really needed at the time. Most of them did, in fact, find
    the use for which they were bought, but not with the degree of urgency I
    purchased them with.
     
    Grimly Curmudgeon, Jan 15, 2007
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