Demo Bikes

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Sandgroper, Nov 1, 2003.

  1. Sandgroper

    Sandgroper Guest

    What do people think about buying a demo bike from a bike yard with say
    , 3,000Km on the clock , a full new bike warranty and about $2,000 -
    $3,000 knocked off the price of a new bike.

    Would it be a good deal or would it be crap ?

    Thanks.
     
    Sandgroper, Nov 1, 2003
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    Jorgen Guest

    I wouldn't get one, put it like that. Much rather get the last year's model
    from a conscentious first owner.

    Demo bike:
    Chances of engine being flogged whilst on very low Ks: HIGH.
    Thus, the chances of engine being properly run in are: Small.

    j
     
    Jorgen, Nov 1, 2003
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  3. Depends on the bike. If it's a kinda of bike that would attract test riders
    that would flog the guts out of it. Also is it the kind of bike that can
    handle such abuse. Are you going to treat it like that yourself? How long do
    you plan to keep it? Is it a $5k bike and you're getting it for 1/2 price or
    is $3k a tiny small part of it's cost. Could you get that sort of a discount
    (or near it) from bargaining with the salespleb on a new bike?

    Aaron
    ZX6R
     
    Aaron & Kylie, Nov 1, 2003
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  4. Sandgroper

    W.D. Guest

    Finally, to put it in the most revolting terms possible, how

    well she'd be sorted out, and may perform well.
    --

    W.D.
    "DUCATI" not perfect but
    we win world championships
     
    W.D., Nov 1, 2003
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  5. Sandgroper

    Sandgroper Guest

    Yeah , I would have though as much , the bike being flogged while on
    very low Ks and not run in properly , particularly if it's a 900 Hornet
    , looks like I will have to either get a new one or look for something a
    bit cheaper.


    Thanks.
     
    Sandgroper, Nov 1, 2003
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  6. Sandgroper

    Sandgroper Guest

    I just got my R class ( unrestricted ) license in Perth the other day
    ( yahooo ) so I was looking at something bigger for my next bike , the
    bike that I was interested in was a 900 Hornet , with 3,000 Km on the
    clock and $2,000 - $3,000 knocked off the price of a new one at around
    $15,000 including ORCs with a full new bike warranty.

    Yeah , a 900 Hornet would attract the test riders that would flog the
    guts out of it , so perhaps I would be better off getting a new bike.

    Thanks.
     
    Sandgroper, Nov 1, 2003
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  7. Sandgroper

    Sandgroper Guest

    OK then , an establishment / shop that sell motorcycles.
    That's a very good point.
    When I asked about a warranty , I was told that the demo bike would have
    a new bike warranty , never though it would be just be the balance of a
    new bike warranty.
    I might have to try that , as I would be paying for my next bike in
    either cash or bank cheque.
    Well the seat would be comfortable , the gearbox wouldn't be really
    tight and painful to use , the oil would have been changed a few times
    to get rid of all the sludge and build up , not to mention that she
    would be already tuned-up and trained to perform well.
    :))
     
    Sandgroper, Nov 1, 2003
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    Jules Guest

    There's a widespread school of thought that the best way to break in a new engine is to flog it mercilessly.

    Few will doubt that yields the highest output motor. Not necessarily longevity, although it's hard to prove either way.
     
    Jules, Nov 1, 2003
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  9. Sandgroper

    Nev.. Guest

    Now that we have found out what particular bike you're talking about it'll be
    easier to offer advice. Check if the 900 Hornet engine actually needs to be
    'run in' or not. My guess is the answer is not, most Honda engines are now
    delivered run-in. I doubt test riders would have dealt out anything the
    engine wasn't capable of handling. It's not the type of bike a boy-racer will
    buy so the chances are the test riders have treated it with a bit more respect
    than say a fireblade. Dealer would probably warm the engine up a bit before
    the test rider got on so probably not too much chance of cold engine having
    the ring revved out of it.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Nov 1, 2003
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    glitch1 Guest

    Which bike?
    $2-3k off list price is the general figures I'm working on when buying a new
    bike (but there are diffs-obviously)
    (Knocked more than 2k off my Strom, brandnew, latest model, no demo).
    Same amount off a Yammie SR250 is a ripper-deal :).
    Friend just bought one of those with 440km clock from a dealer for $4k plus
    stamp duty and transfer/10 months reg.
    THAT was a deal.
    cheers
    pete
     
    glitch1, Nov 1, 2003
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  11. Sandgroper

    Jorgen Guest

    engine is to flog it mercilessly.
    longevity, although it's hard to prove either way.


    Interesting.

    When I picked up a new Honda Civic [car], I took it very easy for the first
    1000k, setting myself a rev limit of 4000-4500 and going easy on it. Then
    for the next thousand maybe up to 5500 with the occasional higher load then
    after that building up with some heavy accelleration etc on occasion. And
    after that, pretty much laissez faire as long as the engine is somewhat hot.

    Thing is running extremely well I think, although I don't quite get the
    posted fuel economy - which I suppose you're not meant to be getting if you
    enjoy the vtec bit of your car's specification. ;) Still 9-ish liters per
    100ks when driving it sporty for short distance trips isn't anything to
    scoff at.

    My own CBR250RR which I bought at 10.5k is running better now at 22k. I run
    it quite hard, as long as the engine is hot.

    Actually getting new fork seals put on now, it was leaking everywhere, plus
    new brake pads and new GPR70s ++ a major service as it is getting close
    anyway. Thought I was in for a minor service to get new brake pads put on
    prior to going to Phillip Island on Thursday, but no, a $1000 bill. Ugh. But
    can't wait to pick it up tomorrow to see how it fares!

    Ob frust: Trip to Newton, Melbourne, seeing R1s etc ridden by squids using
    runners for protection - although a leather jacket but propably just for
    looks, waddling like ducks out of control whilst lanesplitting... looks like
    the cafe riders are coming in season again.

    I suppose I'm just anal but I do actually feel superior to that R1 rider
    being _IN CONTROL_ of my CBR250RR, also wearing full leathers and boots.


    Cheers,
    Jørgen
     
    Jorgen, Nov 2, 2003
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  12. I've got one of those...


    Yard Full Of Bikes Pat
     
    Pat Heslewood, Nov 3, 2003
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  13. Sandgroper said....

    Sa> That's a very good point.
    Sa> When I asked about a warranty , I was told that the demo bike would have
    Sa> a new bike warranty , never though it would be just be the balance of a
    Sa> new bike warranty.

    That's questionable. The bike technically hasn't been sold, so it should
    have the full period of warranty. If you're not sure, ring your state's
    department of consumer affairs. They'll soon advise you of your rights.

    As for having the guts flogged out of it, PaulH is correct. Big bikes
    are difficult to have their guts flogged on the street/roads. On a
    racetrack, yeah. People don't last long flogging the bags out of such
    bikes on the road.

    There's also the haggling side of things. You should be able to get more
    than $2k knocked off its new price. Otherwise, look for a used example
    of the same model. You'll spend heaps less, and still may have a
    warranty on it.
     
    Martin Taylor, Nov 4, 2003
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  14. Sandgroper

    Nev.. Guest

    If you're buying an ex-demo bike, it's not new, so you can hardly expect to
    get a full new vehicle warranty. It'll probably have been registered, and
    have a registered owner (the bike shop or it's owner or an employee) so the
    manufacturer warranty will probably become effective from the day it is
    registered. The shop, on the other hand, may personally warrant the remainder
    of the full 12 or 24 months from the day you buy it after the manufacturer
    warranty has expired.

    Nev..
    '03 ZX12R
    '02 CBR1100XX
     
    Nev.., Nov 4, 2003
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  15. Sandgroper

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Hah ha; and this is AFTER getting sucked into spending $1000 on brake pads
    and fork seals?!!?
    Wow; you superior beings have got it all over us out-of-control
    dumbarses....
    Clem
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 7, 2003
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  16. Sandgroper

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Yeah but a GSXR1000 would've only been with wankers!
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 7, 2003
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  17. Sandgroper

    Jorgen Guest

    [...]
    And a new set of GPR70s and a major service. It turned out to cost $907.
    Phillip Island was a ripper. I can't wait to do another ride day again.
    Overtaking litre bikes towards the end of the day when my GPR70s were full
    rubbed in & I was getting more comfortable with the track after starting off
    _very_ easy was just great.

    Going to the gym doing some good runs & weights before the event helped. A
    bit of fitness doesn't hurt when doing the cornering.

    Oops did I hit a nerve?

    j
     
    Jorgen, Nov 8, 2003
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  18. Sandgroper

    Knobdoodle Guest

    Christ, hardly! Have you done something impressive or clever?
    I was just laughing at you; didn't you get it? (I haven't stopped yet
    either!)
    What on earth is the gym-wank talk all about? Are you trying to be
    super-macho-man ON TOP OF superior-bike-man?
    Wow; just how good can one man be? [Awed look]
     
    Knobdoodle, Nov 10, 2003
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  19. Now now Clem, if he wants to ride an underpants gnome........

    Hammo
     
    Hamish Alker-Jones, Nov 10, 2003
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  20. Sandgroper

    sharkey Guest

    Steady now, Knobbo, or he'll fix you with his thousand-latté stare ...

    -----sharks
     
    sharkey, Nov 10, 2003
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