Disgraceful monopoly by the FM

Discussion in 'Motorcycle Racing' started by Baldy, Nov 29, 2009.

  1. Baldy

    Baldy Guest

    Aprilia quits the new Moto2 class following the FIM decree that all
    particiating manufactures must use Honda engines and Dunlop tyres.
    "The group believes that involvement in races where all competitors
    must necessarily use the engine technology of a rival constructor
    would serve no purpose and would be detrimental to its image as a
    leading Italian and European motorcycle manufacturer," a statement
    from Aprilia owner Piaggio
    Can't fault that statement.

    http://uk.reuters.com/article/idUKGEE5AN1RD20091124
     
    Baldy, Nov 29, 2009
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    Dave Guest

    Spec motors have been the plan for some time now. Why are you and
    Aprilia just now choosing to make a fuss about it?

    I don't think Moto2 is designed for having direct factory teams. It's
    a chassis building series designed to bring in the (relatively) lower
    budget independent teams. Teams run by aftermarket performance shops,
    dealership consortiums, and such. Judging by the number of team
    applications they had to turn away, it seems the formula has
    widespread acceptance for controlling costs, leveling the field, and
    leaving just enough room to tune for the best to succeed. Aprilia
    really doesn't belong there as a factory effort.

    I fail to see how it's a disgraceful monopoly.
     
    Dave, Dec 1, 2009
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    pablo Guest

    I agree and second that thought.

    I don't think how it is a monopoly when it is not like (a) Honda is
    likely to turn it into a competitive differentiator (b) Honda is not
    likely to turn it into a very profitable operation (c) the motor
    honors are likely to be passed around the different vendors over the
    years.

    I think it would be a major competitive differentiator if a different
    chassis with a Honda motor wins the championship though. It'd be a
    major proof of superior handling know how for the brand, and sportbike
    riders appreciate that...

    It is a shame the exotic chassis makers are not as much en vogue
    anymore as they were many years ago. It'd be nice if the Moto2 grid
    had some Bimotas, Bakker, Egli...
     
    pablo, Dec 1, 2009
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  4. Baldy

    Baldy Guest

    I had rather hoped that this class would not take shape, after all
    part of racing is determined by success away from the racetrack ie.
    Win on Sunday, sell on Monday. Aprilia obviously aren't constrained by
    finance so they do not want this 'production' class and that is part
    of prototype racing - winning by the failure of your opponent due to
    cost of racing and development. This halfbreed series will focus on
    the personality of the racer and ignore the now diminished role of the
    constructor. It isn't always a bad thing to have a clearly dominant
    machine because I'd bet my bottom dollar that the one thing we'll see
    more of next year from the Moto2 is going to be accidents - lots and
    big. Its what always happens when a lot of guys with equal machines go
    get to race. The macabre spectacle might appeal to some but don't kid
    yourself, many racers who have had a fearsome crash (determined as
    'the big one') are never the same again and there is sure to be a
    hefty share in this new series.
     
    Baldy, Dec 1, 2009
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    pablo Guest

    I think accidents also happen when guys on inferior machines ride them
    too hard to try to win. I think the opposite argument could be made
    too. The one thing I never ever hope for in motorcycle racing is
    accidents. I certainly hope your prediction doesn't come true. I do
    think even with "equal" machines the best riders tend to be able to
    set them up better. After a while it is never a coincidence that the
    best riders and the best machines seem to come together on most
    occasions.
     
    pablo, Dec 2, 2009
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  6. Baldy

    Baldy Guest

    Its not like the FIM are breaking new ground here, there has been
    successive regimentation of motorcycle design from them since the
    second world war. The engineer Dennis Jones (Derbyshire) built a
    number of motorcycles for Grand Prix racing and was able to enter them
    for competition. He built a 500cc 2 stroke 4 cylinder with
    supercharger and would have raced this but for the FIM baning
    superchargers after WW2. I am sure that many other equally meritorious
    machines have been built by other engineers but thats not the point.
    If we remove the time line we have - a ban on supercharging or
    turbo's, a restriction of the number of cylinders, a restriction of
    the number of gears used, ban of oval pistons and now a ban of the
    manufacture of an engine. Its all going to wards rental of a
    constructed racing machine and that alone.
    I accuse the FIM of instigating a monopoly* because here is a
    lucrative series with television coverage and a lot of money at stake
    for other manufacturers but the condition is that Honda 600cc engines
    and Dunlop tyres are used. Other engines and tyres are available. I am
    calling it a disgraceful monopoly because this is an international
    organisation and for it to be subject to law, each participating
    country would have to be approached concerning Monopolies and Mergers
    legislation.
    I would like to think that I am wrong about an increase of accidents
    but now that all riders have the same engine and control tyre there
    are two less reasons for winning. This series is expected to be 'elbow
    to elbow' (MCN) and at speeds of over 170mph that can only mean a
    greater possibility of danger.

    *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monopoly
     
    Baldy, Dec 2, 2009
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    Julian Bond Guest

    And severe restrictions on streamlining.

    There's all sorts of reasons for motorcycle racing. But one of the most
    important is that it's extremely expensive and lucrative entertainment.
    Unfortunately some times the money and the entertainment get in the way
    of the technology.
     
    Julian Bond, Dec 3, 2009
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