Diversion keeps wanting to lay down

Discussion in 'Australian Motorcycles' started by Will_456, Apr 21, 2009.

  1. Will_456

    Will_456 Guest

    As a new owner of a Yamaha XJ900S Diversion I must say how happy I am
    with this good all-rounder and how unhappy I am with one small feature.

    The side stand is absolutely useless on this bike. It leans the bike
    over on a very precarious angle putting far too much weight on the tiny
    little foot.
    The slightest bit of soft ground, it sinks only a centimeter or two and
    over the bike goes.
    I should have got the hint when searching for this model to buy. Every
    second advert says "Paint good, except for scratches on left hand side
    where bike fell over".
    My bike went over last weekend. It had to happen. I've saved it a few
    times by arriving back just in time to see it on the verge of toppling.

    I don't know why Ulysses members favor this bike so much. The parked
    angle means it's a bugger to lift upright and the centre stand is not
    user friendly either.

    This bike alone could topple our health system with hernia operations.
    Well maybe.
     
    Will_456, Apr 21, 2009
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    JL Guest

    How obtaining a small piece of hard plastic (or even metal) say 7cm x
    7cm and keeping it in your pocket and putting it under the sidestand
    each time you park it on anything other than bitumen or concrete ?

    I think I've even seen ads in AMCN for people who sell such a device

    JL
    (or for that matter bitumen on a hot day)
     
    JL, Apr 21, 2009
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  3. How obtaining a small piece of hard plastic (or even metal) say 7cm x
    7cm and keeping it in your pocket and putting it under the sidestand
    each time you park it on anything other than bitumen or concrete ?

    I think I've even seen ads in AMCN for people who sell such a device

    JL
    (or for that matter bitumen on a hot day)

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    They are selling on ebay
     
    George W Frost, Apr 22, 2009
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    theo Guest

    In my case I wasn't happy with the lean anglee of the Norge on the
    sidestand on my gravel driveway, so cut out a piece of stainless plate
    and attached it ot the sidestand. This tripled the foot-print and made
    the stand about 10mm longer.

    Theo
     
    theo, Apr 22, 2009
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    Diogenes Guest

    Maybe it's had too many late nights lately...

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    Onya bike

    Gerry
     
    Diogenes, Apr 22, 2009
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    atec7 7 Guest

    Google "horse shoe side stand addition " or look on ebay , yes they exist .
     
    atec7 7, Apr 22, 2009
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    Will_456 Guest

    Will_456, Apr 22, 2009
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    Knobdoodle Guest

    That's not normal.
    I've ridden a few 1000 on a Divvy (and many 1000 with one) and it's
    sidestand operation was unremarkable (even with a Phillip Island weekend's
    luggage on board!)
    I'd be looking at the bracket to see if it's cracked... or maybe the
    pivot-bolt is broken or very worn. (or maybe it's got an XJ250 sidestand on
    it!)
     
    Knobdoodle, Apr 22, 2009
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    Sandgroper Guest

    You could try using a MudBug on the stand to see if that helps.

    A MudBug is a rectangular piece of hard plastic 120mm x 70 mm that slips on
    over the shoe of the side stand and comes in a range of colours and costs
    about $15 from most bike shops.

    I couldn't find a pic of one on-line or their web page so you may have go
    do a ring around to the bike shops in your area to see if they have one.


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    Sandgroper, Apr 22, 2009
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  10. How obtaining a small piece of hard plastic (or even metal) say 7cm x 7cm and keeping it in your pocket and putting it under the sidestand

    Crushed coke can works well, squashed top to bottom...
     
    Mister Biggus, Apr 22, 2009
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    rockit Guest

    If one accepts that one of the skills required to survive on a
    motorcycle is to be
    continually trying to reduce the odds of probabilities, in this
    instance you haven't
    made much of a go of it. As well as adopting one\some of the solutions
    offered,
    you might also give some thought to how your problem solving process
    works.
     
    rockit, Apr 23, 2009
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    Will_456 Guest

    You're absolutely right Rockit, I haven't completed the problem solving
    process at all.
    So why would I go straight to one of the last steps and "Give it a go"
    (Test solution) when I'm only at the beginning.

    So far -
    1. Identify the problem (done)
    2. Seek Information (still looking and asking)

    When I have as much information as needed then I can document and
    consider the pros and cons of each idea.
    For example:
    Is it feasible and practical to carry a crushed coke can with you
    always? Can I make it easily accessible every time I get off the bike?
    (I may not be able to put the bike on the stand in order to access my
    luggage compartment). A crushed coke can in your pocket could penetrate
    your body like a knife in a fall. Would a plastic alternative be better?

    For Example:
    An extension to your sidestand could affect ground clearance or dig into
    the road on a corner spitting you off. It could also void your
    insurance. Is it worth the possibility of stuffing my electricals when
    welding it on? Even if the battery is disconnected, it's a fully wired
    up bike and there's always a risk of a surge to a component.

    Still finding information Rockit, still looking and asking.
     
    Will_456, Apr 23, 2009
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    theo Guest

    In the case of my Norge, I took the sidestand off to attach 'big-foot'
    and bolted it on. Welding stainless to mild steel is not myspecialty.
    It has been on for over two years and, on the Norge, tucks well out of
    the way. The centre stand grounds first.

    Keeping a crushed coke can in my pocket doesn't appeal to me either.
    Mario at Thunderbikes was selling something called a 'bike-puck' which
    was made of wood or plastic and was like a slipper that your sidestand
    base slipped into. That would be safer to have in your pocket but
    still a pain to use. I get to use mine every time without thinking "Is
    it safe or do I get that puck out of my pocket? Damn, it's in my other
    jacket. Puck it!"

    Theo
     
    theo, Apr 24, 2009
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    F Murtz Guest

    To weld something on a stand would you not remove stand first?
     
    F Murtz, Apr 24, 2009
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    George W Frost, Apr 24, 2009
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    Nev.. Guest

    Because it's a bastard trying to get the stand in the bench vice with
    one hand while you're holding the bike with the other hand.

    Nev..
    '07 XB12X
    '08 DL1000K8
     
    Nev.., Apr 24, 2009
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    F Murtz Guest

    That's a better reason than mine.
     
    F Murtz, Apr 24, 2009
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    Sandgroper Guest

    You are doing it all arse about , It a piece of piss , you turn the bike
    upside down and put bike in the vice.
    :)



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    Sandgroper, Apr 24, 2009
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  19. I have got a good bike sized vise in the shed
     
    George W Frost, Apr 25, 2009
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